Wilson Audio Haters


I've always wondered why there are so many people out there, that more than any other speaker manufacturer, really hate the Wilson line. I own Maxx 2's and also a pair of Watt Puppys. They are IMHO quite wonderful.

Why does Wilson get so much thrashing?

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I've seen the same statement several times, "Funny  that most  people that denigrate the Wilson speakers have never heard them - probably reacting to a company making speakers they can't afford?" I've owned several Wilson speakers. In hindsight "I owned" them more for their name and wanting to belong to a group of Wilson Owners than their sound. I argued that Wilson's were the best and defended my choice. I will say, Wilson's are some of the most dynamic speakers that I've owned, but I would take my current speakers over any Wilson that I've heard or owned. As I have become more in tuned to the sound I prefer, I have moved further away from the Wilson sound. I don't worry about the company name, I just think about how it sounds to my ears. So, there are some people that have owned Wilson's and can afford them; however they just don't prefer them. No absolutes in Audio, just preferences!
I often asked the question overhere: what do you want to hear?

- The truth, or the thing you would like to hear.

* When you test and compare like we do, you will hear that the truth is a lot different than what people write.

When a highend speaker is able to create a deeper and wider stage, and also more diversity in height, this speaker is better than a speaker who build a less deep, wide and high stage. This has nothing to do with personal preference.

When a speaker is able to create more layers and details of the music, it is better than a speaker who show less.

When a speaker has a better timing and more control and layers in the lowest frequencies, it is better than a speakeer who show less details in this part.

When a speaker has more grip on the high frequencies and reveals more details, it is better in this area. There is no discussion possible.

So please stop the bullshit stories about preference. That is why is said many times; highend audio needs parameters. The way it works now , it is a free world. And you can say whatever you want to say.

In my world audio is all about shootout and the truth. So arrange a shootout between Wilson Audio and a Monitor Audio Pl-500. How difficult can it be?

When you can’t handle the truth, you are the one who limits yourself!
Ricred1 is an honest man who tells his true thoughts. I had a client with the Sasha who also had the same feelings and thoughts Ricred1 has.

It was a fact the Pl-200 II could reveal more details and layers. And it created a much bigger stage as well. Money covers the truth about audio.

Money rules and limits consumers to get the real information you want and need.

When people have no idea how music (instruments and voices) sounds in real you can sell them any kind of audio. There is no reference frame for them to compare.

That is why we want to give demos with real musicians and instruments. For example; To show what intimate sound does with our emotion. We also have thoughts about using curtains. Intimate sound is a part of Tru-Fi. It influences our emotion a lot. We can proof this by sound.



I counted myself amongst the haters, till I heard them with what I consider, good matching amps. They tend to be matched with SS Amps and with one exception, I hate the sound with that combination. The exception?  D'Agostino amps, which with a pair of Alexias, produced a sound that was one of the best I have heard.

 Returning to reality, a combination which is at least in theory, affordable,  Wilson with Tubes, particularly Audio Research, sound great, IMHO. Recently I heard Sabrina's with an ARC Ref 75/LS27 combo and it was very fine indeed. I couldn't afford it, but it is, by modern standards, affordable to some.

My client of the Sasha played with the Ref 75SE and Momentum stereo poweramp. Both missed different parts of Tru-Fi

People have to learn that diversity in sound is the most important part to create emotion during listening to music.

For example a Pass labs poweramp is a lot better in diversity in sound compared to the Momentum stereo poweramp. The Momentum also misses layers in the lowest freq. range. It also is not able to double the power when you go from 8ohm to 4ohm. The Pass creates a deeper and more controlled low freq with even more layers. In the mid freq. the layering is of a whole different quality compared to the Momentum.

The funny thing is that in audio magazines you will never find a shootout between Pass labs and D’ Agostino amps. This is what I would like to see.

The Ref 75SE sounded more relaxt, but diversity in sound is something different than a pleasant sound. When we played the same music at my system with a Pass Labs poweramp the level of resolution and layers in the whole frequency range was superior.