Solid State Amps for Quad ESL 57?


My system is feeling pretty tube-y and I was looking for suggestions of a solid state amps that people are liking with their original Quad ESLs. Looking for more speed and more of the bass I know the Quads can put out if set up right.
dhcod

It has been quite a while since I heard the HQD system.  That was a very expensive system in its day. 


I have heard, much more recently, re-built and heavily modified 57s done by a company called MyEmia.  One of these pair of  speakers came with an active crossover and was bi-amplified using dedicated EL34 tube amplifiers.   The other pair, I cannot remember the specific details, but, I think it was a similar setup.  Both pairs were able to deliver music at quite high volume levels and with fairly deep and impactful bass; this is NOT your father's Quads.  It was hard to say if they could do all the other things that the 57s are known for because I heard them at two different DC -area Capital Audifests (2015 and 2016) and they were mainly demonstrated at exceedingly high volume levels. 

Atma-Sphere M-60 Mk. 3.3:

80 wpc @  16 ohms

60 wpc @ 8 ohms

45 wpc @ 4 ohms

So, is this the right "type" of amplification for these Quads? 

By the way, magnificent piece of audio jewel.


^^Thanks!

If you were planning to use an SET on the 57, you would likely use the 16 ohm tap. You would get a similar proportionate spread in total output power.

However, the total output power does not represent what you would actually hear in practice. This is because there is less energy in music at higher frequencies. So the amp does not need to make as much power at those frequencies. In practice it seems to work well- we have a lot of Quad customers.

Since the M-60 can make far more power than the 57 can handle, many of our customers run the  amp with less than the full complement of power tubes (which is easy to do with our amps). This would further limit the 4 ohm power but this does not seem to be a problem. Alternatively the 57s can be outfitted with a modern protection circuit which shuts down the amplifier power if it senses too much output voltage.

FWIW, Quads and OTLs have a long history together going back to the 1950s.
kalali
So, is this the right "type" of amplification for these Quads?

hmmmm.....

Sometimes...it is easier to turn the question around a little to get the right answer ? like.....

How do you know if it is "not" the right type of amplification for these Quads?

********************************

1) Are the Canon shots on 1812 Overture so real, that you believe you are actually seeing sparks in your room; which you believe are related to gun powder.

Then it’s not the right amplification for these Quads.

2) When discussing the Speakers with the Amp manufacturer, and he/she can’t answer directly with facts, and says.

"Oh, don’t worry your speakers won’t hurt our AMP"

Then it’s not the right amplification for these Quads.

3) When you read about reviewers talking with Peter Walker and they ask.

"For people who would like to use your speakers as mid-range and high-end
reproducers - do you make suggestions about what they might add for moving-coil supplement below 100Hz, say?

Then it’s not the right amplification for these Quads ?

Quads play down to 45hz. You will have difficulty crossing over at 100hz. (just take my word on this one)

4) When you see someone’s setup and it looks like this.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-urEs8lxKAII/Upb0foVkinI/AAAAAAAAA-w/oNYggMVMkgQ/s1600/Quad+ESL-57+advertis....

Don’t even bother asking the question.....go to the next question.

But first from the Quad Owners Manual

"As a general rule radiation of sound waves from the front and rear of the speaker should be restricted as little as possible. While corners and positions closer to the wall should be avoided. A corner position is often necessary for other types of loudspeakers because it accentuates the low frequencies, but such a position for the Quad will both reduce the bass seriously and cause deterioration of middle frequencies due to standing waves."

5) If someone needs to use external tweeters with the speakers.

Then it’s not the right amplification for these Quads.

***************************************

Having a lot of fun here w u guys.........so cold outside but a lot nicer today.....still, .......boating season seems so far away.

Cheers
bdp24                                   01/10/2017
 
" One great way to add bass to the 57 is with a pair of Magneplanar
Tympani bass panels. "

Agreed. It might even be the best way, provided the quads are allowed to run full range.