Wilson Audio Haters

Stealth Low Frecquency will become the new reference in low frequency.

I hated subwoofers for stereo use untill 2010. When I was able to put the loudspeakers and subwoofer in phase and were it is located my thoughts about subwoofers totally changed.

In 2005 I had ideas how subwoofers would be working for stereo use. But I thought it would never be possible.

Stealth Low Frequency goes even a lot further. It brings the energy exactly where it is at the recording. Stealth Low Frequency showed that you can use subwoofer a lot further.

But people think in 1980 and will stop at 50,60,70 or maybe 80hz. Stealth Low Frequency also showed that Rel and Velodyne subwoofers are a lot slower than the Monitor Audio subwoofers.

The response and timing is the essential part of subwoofers. With Stealth Low Frequency I can proof (it is all about proof :) that it is possible to create a higher level in quality and speed with Monitor Audio subwoofers.

Again this is based on the differences in properties and DNA. They make the differences, not a name or brand.

Tru-Fi gives you full access to all the qualities of the subwoofer. The 1980 silly trial and error way of thinking will always use a very limited part of the full potential. And you cannot change that. You are not able to think in properties.

You always need to go back to think in trial and error. This will limit you in quality until you die.

Stealth Low Frequency proves stereo without a subwoofer is of a lower quality. These days I seldom sell stereo without a subwoofer.

Because when people audition it with or without the subwoofer, you would be a fool not to use it. Tru-Fi and Stealth Low Frequency makes subwoofers so much more effective and important.

It is insane what the level is of a subwoofer created by trial and error. When we visit a show or shop the people who demo it are often negative themselves.

I have to admit that without Stealth Low Frequency I would never want to use a subwoofer for stereo use either. In that way I understand the 1980 way of thinking!

Itzhak1969 you couldn't be more wrong!  Pretty much all speakers benefit from a properly placed and integrated sub.   And 4 8" drivers is not an overwhelming amount/size. Do you understand what the excursion would be for a 20hz note??!!  And then they may be required to do a 400hz note at the same time. 

With small 8" woofers obviously you need a subwoofer. 2 x 8 inch does not even equate to a 12 inch. Furthermore small voice coils and less Xmax and poor linearity and poor heat handling make small woofers totally inadequate for ultra LF - so except for pleasing aesthetics of a narrow speaker this size woofer really is still around the mid point of highest end - it can sound excellent but is still short of true full range.

I have 15 inch woofers on my mains now and I don’t feel need for the 15 inch sub anymore - it doesn’t add anything - except for movies. When I had 12 inch woofers the subwoofer was actually necessary.

With respect to the Onkyo 5509. I can concur with Bo that this is a great DSP for HT systems - it worked great in my 7.1 setup. When you have 7 speakers in one room you definitely need a clever DSP with something like Audyssey XT32 or other room EQ software. I am completely sold on that concept. The room is a huge problem and getting a balanced totally clear clean sound is a huge challenge with so many speakers creating LF modes and reflections everywhere. The 5509 with the calibration microphone fixes everything in less than 20 minutes - brilliant.

That said, I prefer two channel music listening without any DSP at all. Although the Audyssey XT32 room correction sounds very good - to me pure two channel still has the edge but it might be just my room (in another less favourable room perhaps DSP two channel might have the edge)