Fall Flat Panel Lineup

There are two sets that I think stand out over the rest, the Sony XBR 52" which has been selling for as little as $2799 ( or the Sony XBR 46" for about $2399) both LCD's and the one I personally think is the best of the flat panels, the Pioneer Elite Pro FD111 50" Plasma that has been selling for around $4500. It replaced the FD 110 which was much reviewed and thought to be at that time the best flat screen by a wide margin. The FD 111 is better than it however.
I viewed both brands side by side recently and the difference was bigger than I thought in favor of the plasma.
The best way to judge is to be able to veiw the different sets side by side. Tweeter is a good place for this. Circuit City and Best Buy (only Magnolia @ BB) do not carry the Pioneer Elites.
They're real differences in all the sets with good source material. The plasma's have better black levels and do look more natural. They also are better to view on the angles. The LCD's are better in brighter rooms. These things are getting better and the trickle down effect from top models is obvious.
Sony is slated to introduce their new LCD with LED backlighting in October. I'm sure it will be expensive at first but is suppose to cure the last of the LCD's weaknesses compared to plasma.
Like everything, it's kind of a personal choice and if the higher price sets improvement is worth the difference to you.

IMO the Pioneer Elite has that film look with great black levels. The newer LCD like Samsung TOC (Touch of Color) really challenges the performance/ratio. But I don't think it looks better than my 720p Pioneer. I can get another 15% performance with great power cord and additional 10% detail with power conditioner.

LIke the previous post said...source material is key.

You've received some terrific advice! As mentioned the source and calibration of these panels is the key. Use the best sources you can..just like audio. And calibrate the TV once you receive it. That's the tough part about judging any of these TVs in a store. Most likely none of them are calibrated.
So you'll get mixed reviews on what's the best.

The wrong calibrations and sources will make any panel look terrible. I would not spend 5 grand on a panel. The prices come down so quickly ...you'd be upset 6 months later with the price of the same panel. I would go for a close out model..which ever unit you purchase.

You can get a great new TV for nearly half of what it originally sold for.

You may want to check out www.avsforum for mucho discussion on all formats, sources, displays etc.

Thanks for all the good information.

Black levels: When folks say plasma has better blacks, does that mean good shadow details or that blacks are just more black, which can block out shadow details?

Source: I live in an apartment with Comcast feed. Is there a better alternative for a source for me?

DVD: Right now I've got a Sony 9000es and imagine I'll move up to Blue Ray and/or the Oppo, of which I've read many good things.

Magnolia: I stopped by yesterday and saw the 2008 Sony against the 2009 Pioneer Elite. Both looked really good. I thought the Sony showed a little grain in continuous tone images, but had a little better shadow detail than the Elite. Both were fed a 720 image according to the salesperson. At the size range (about 50") and with their source I would not say that artifacting was an issue with either of these models. The salesperson said the new Sony XBR comes out in Septmeber or October. I may wait until then, so I can compare it to the other two. Has anybody viewed the new Sony XBR, such as at CES?

Thanks again for all the good input. Jeff