If cupracer buys his Wilsons new, and he is, then the dealers is obligated to set up the speakers correctly in his room. It comes with the purchase price. This is Wilsons rule.
Wilson Sasha 2 or Alexia for small room 10' x 17'?
I went to audition the Wilson Sabrina at a local shop. I so wanted to love these speakers because of the reviews, price and compact size. Unfortunately, I could not (don't hate me Sabrina owners). I did, however, fall in love with the Sasha 2. It seemed to do everything and more that I was looking for and I am hoping this speaker will be a speaker I can live with for a very long time. After thinking about it, I wondered, is the difference between the Sabrina and Sasha 2 smaller or greater than the Sasha 2 and current Alexia? The room has good acoustics, Mcintosh C50 pre, MC152 amp and as noted above, is very small. Would there be too much bass and overwhelm the room. I have not heard the Alexias and was wondering if any owners or listeners familiar to both can comment on the differences and similarities and give impressions as to how they might work in my small room. I currently own and like very much the Sonus Faber Venere 3.0 but am looking for more. At this point, I am pretty sure I will go with the Sashas but am looking for guidance from someone with experience especially since it is very hard to locate the Alexias and hear personally. Thanks for your opinions
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@audiotroy Here's some unsolicited advice for you that I think would help you and certainly help the rest of us: Post your business affilation at the bottom of every post, e.g.: Troy Lastname Audio Doctor (dealer) Anytown, Anystate www.storewebsite phone# or email Rather than writing giant descriptions of what you want to sell on threads about other gear simply state "We have XYZ that we think is a better alternative for your situation. Contact us if interested". Your writings wreak of telemarketers who just keep reading the script until the recipient hangs up. If you have new product that deserves discussion start a thread to discuss it in all the detail you'd like. Every time you lash back and go into more detail about why you did what you did it just costs you credibility. Even if your recommendations and advice are spot on, to force them in threads where people aren't interested won't win you sales or appreciation. Cheers, Spencer |
Crazyeddy the issue is not if the dealer is going to setup them up that is a given, what will happen if they over load his room and has too much or boomy bass then what? If I was the dealer I would be very concerned that the speakers are on the short wall, and it is not a near-field issue or not, I like listening in the near field, it is just easier to exacerbate bass issues. Which is why I suggested that his dealer brings over a set before he takes delivery. As per Spencer again, this thread got high-jacked by Grpu attacking me the company, and our integrity and motivations. If you notice I made one comment, about how this one pair of speakers and not any of the other speakers we sell, might, be an even better choice. It was a few lines, and hardly a diatribe or anything other than that. Troy Audio Doctor Jersey CIty NJ www.audiodoctor.com 877-428-2873 Is that better Spencer? Honestly I wish Cupracer the best I just want him to be happy, and he may end up thrilled or not, are the Wilsons Sashas better speakers then his Sonus yes of course they are and I like Wilsons it will all come down to how Cupracers room and gear choice align with the Sashas. |
Audiotroll: Can you hear sbank with your tin ear? Once again, you misrepresent what has happened in this thread. You say that I "hijacked" the thread. Let’s review: The OP asked a number of questions designed to assist him in deciding which Wilson speakers he should purchase for his room. I provided an answer to all of his questions based upon my actual experience with Wilson speakers and different room sizes. You swoop in to promote the Personas as the equal of Alexias for 20K less. Not so bad IF you had not been so overbearing about the Personas at great length and in excruciating detail in another thread by saying there, in sum, that they were made of the unquestioned best drivers known to man (beryllium) and engineered with the best R&D in audio, worth multiples of their price and, indeed that the Personas bested the $100k + Kharmas you guys had in your shop. I agree that the Personas are very good speakers, a bargain for the money but to quote you from that thread: "I have heard $100k Rockports, $120k Kharmas and $70k plus Wilsons, $70k Vandersteens, the Persona 9H can match any of them and in many areas out perform all of these major players, I would also include $70k Magico in this mix." NOW, having heard all of the above speakers on many occasions including the Personas, I believe you have greatly overstated your case there and here. That, in and of itself, does not give me the right to criticize a regular member of the Audiogon community, and I would not do that. Some people maintain that the Quad esls are the best speakers ever made. I can understand and would not dispute that opinion But you represent a dealer, and one owned by a hyperventilating, hyperbolic one at that (with whom I have had a number of such encounters, the last being a number of years ago when he tried to hard sell me and others the "last and best digital player I would ever need" (the fabulous and legendary Memory Player) with the "best overall speaker on the market period "(that would be the Ushers--at least they are still in business) The 4 unrelated people in the room with me that day looked at each other in surprise and commented in the hall as to what a turn off Dave’s sales job was. So naturally, when you invade a thread having nothing to do with the OP’s question and try once again to sell the Personas here--I have to ask--do you have access to a dictionary? Now look up the word "hijack". Enough said on that topic. As for me impugning your company, integrity and motivations--well, I’ll let others decide. |
Grpu please just shut up. Your relentless attacks and tirades are tiring you bring nothing to the table, and you hold a grudge about sitting in a demo and being sold to what 10 years ago, when a dealer presented Usher speakers as offering great sound and being reasonably priced. To this day the memory player continues to amaze people who have heard it, so what is your point, go hear Clement Perry's $500k system it uses a memory player by the way. So your feelings where hurt by a man whose presentation was "hyperbolic" in your terms by representing products which were under priced and over performing? As I pointed out previously in the following years the Usher Be 718 and DMD 718 received scores of fantastic reviews. As per your conduct here, I made one reference to the Personas as having room correction and costing $20k less then the Alexias, if this man could find a speaker with unique room correcting capabilities that might actually perform better then a pair of Alexias or Sashas in his room, gee what a crime, we got this man to have better bass, and saved him $20k, wow what a bad guy to have pointed out a unique product that Cupracer wasn't thinking about or knew about, by the way that is what Forums are supposed to be about a free exchange of ideas. If you cry foul every time anyone bring up anything different in a Forum you will be eliminating why Forums exist in the first place. Both Dave and myself learn from other peoples experiences and we are always finding and testing new products sometimes based on what people have said in a Forum. As per your critique on our comments, we have tested several fantastic and pricey speakers in the same room under the same criteria, we have been on a high performance loudspeaker bender for quite a while: We have tested the following speakers under identical testing methodology 1: Kef Blades, a $32K speaker that sounds like a $70k speaker as also stated by one of the British mags, we love the Blades the Personas do certain things way better. 2: Polymer Research MKX-S $70k 400lb all metal cabinet with Acuton Diamond midrange and tweeter, one of the most remarkable speakers ever built in some ways better than the Personas, in other ways not, and at twice the price we decided to focus on the Personas which compete against them. 3: Kharma DB 7 and Elegance brought in for evaluation, and both sounded great the $120k Elegance sounded very good but was not better then the Personas in any appreciable way and were huge in physical size so we passed on them. 4: We had a pair of trade in Maxx 3 by the way also here. Lastly a man who owns Wilson Watt 8 heard the Personas at our shop, with the right matching equipment, and was blown away by them and stated they sounded way better the his Watt Puppy 8, or don't you read? The Personas are incredibly transparent and are one of the most holographic speakers I have ever heard and again TAS gave them one hell of a positive review: "Good things do come in a relatively small packages although this is a nearly 300 lb speaker that is 51 inches high. It uses four new ultra high excursion woofers, two 700 watt amps and ARC 2 digital room compensation to produce incredibly deep, accurate bass flat to 19hz and going as low as 15hz. It also features an advanced beryllium tweeter and midrange driver and provides equally outstanding midrange and treble performance in every aspect. Detail dynamics, depth and imaging are all excellent. Sensitivity is 96db, allowing use with even low power triodes and providing, an exceptional sense of life with more powerful amps, AHC forthcoming" page 54 Absolute Sound Editors Choice 2017. Gee again I wonder if again we will be right championing another really superb product, just like the Ushers and Scaenas, before them. I guess we must have paid off Anthony Cordesman to say the Personas are great speakers. Please go stick your head in the sand I guess you won't be able to learn from someone who knows more about sound reproduction then you do. |
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