Clyde Stubblefield RIP

Would be glad to discuss this further through some other means, but I think Slaw’s wishes should be rightfully respected. I believe you have it wrong.

Thanks frogman.

With respect, it shouldn't be so much because of my wishes, it is out of respect for the artist.

His drumming style, or any disagreements as it relates to how one perceives it, is better served and would be enlightening in a separate thread.

Happy listening

Slaw, I never met Mr. Stubblefield, but I suspect he would be happy that his life caused a discussion about being "in the pocket".  I imagine he would listen, say both sides are right and then sit down behind his kit and play a groove.  Everybody would then break into a smile.

He was described as a very giving person.

onhwy61,

Point taken. (Exactly). And that discussion is better addressed in another thread.

Would you want others to point out their interpretations of your drumming style at your funeral?

My initial post, was to me, a recognition of an artist that deserved recognition. (which I perceived would not have been given here).

A further discussion of others' thoughts on how his style should be remembered is best done on a separate discussion.

Why I'm even having to explain this point is disturbing.

I'm sorry you don't get it. I'm now sorry I even tried.

Peace.. Mr. Stubblefield..............

@slaw

No disrespect to you or Clyde. Any reference to a great drummer (such as Clyde) immediately leads the musically inclined to a discussion of technique (such as "in the pocket") and comparisons (not criticisms but deep respect for what every drummer brings). I understand that this does not interest you and wish to to discuss and honour the particular person that was Clyde. I also apologize that I did not respect audiogon as an official forum for leaving obituary comments and I simply got excited to see a few here who show interest in drumming technique. I am sorry you had to explain all this but please understand it is my enthusiasm for what Clyde brought to music that got me going on a tangent and off of the proper homage that this thread is supposed to be.

Here is what I know (and I have nearly all of James Brown stuff which is a lot considering how prolific he was)

He never got paid for Cold Sweat groove. And no doubt got nothing for all the samples taken of his music. Curiously in music you can copyright a chord progression or melody such as Stairway to Heaven but NOT a distinctive drum groove! Clyde was very humble and such a great person. He was self taught & his big break with James Brown lasted 6 years on tour. Clyde was no exception - many musicians had falling outs as James Brown was a difficult character that regularly fell out with members in his band (and the band was paid very little). Prince was a big fan of his and even helped with Clyde’s health care bills.

Like Mick Jagger and others have recently made an effort to recognize the great backing singers as well as the great musicians that invented the blues, it would be wonderful to one day see a great drummer such as Clyde get the recognition he truly deserves. Clyde contributed so much to the music of the 20th century and his influence lives on today and yet he got paid so little for it. To be so humble and to have given so much and to rarely have shown any bitterness is the mark of a truly great human and artist.