Specific Pre-Amp advice



I would really like to get some help from the Forum. Late 2017 early 2018 I am getting a new pre-amp. My options to hear gear are low (common issue). Probably be buying blind which I have done in the past in conjunction with research. Here is the run down. 

Budget: 2500 possibly pushed to 3k. Looking for used gear (pretty much ruling out new).

1. I am leaning heavily toward a tube pre.
2. I would like a remote but its not a deal breaker if it gets me better SQ
3. Line stage only. Don't really need a phono stage as I have a stand alone
4. It needs to be active. 
5. Feeding SS amp with 100k input impedance 
6. Primary used with Vinyl front end. Would like it to handle three sources. (Radio, Dac/CD and Input for TT)
7. 2 channel only no pass through needed or wanted. 
8. Single Ended RCA Connection. My amp does not have true balance connections 

Current System 

VPI Prime 
SS Aida Cart
MS Nova Phomoma 
Exposure 17
Exposure Dual Reg 4
Vienna Acoustic Mozart Grands 

I am looking to get more resolution. A more liquid sound. Bigger soundstage and get more of the recording space into my room. 

My preference is for an open/transparent neutral sound slightly tipped to the warm side in the highs. Slight roll off maybe. I like a fast quick musical sound with tight quick bass. Not looking for tube romance or rounded bass. I absolutely would like to stay away from bright sounding gear. Also super etched is not to my thing. I fall in the musicality camp. 

Any suggestions that would help me achieve this sound would be appreciated. These qualities defiantly take system matching into account. Pretty happy right now but I think I can do better.



darkstar1
darkstar1
I will look into the Freya. It does not say its OTL but I will research it.
No it won’t be OTL (output transformerless) you can see that in the attached circuit pic. But I’m sure it will be OCC (output capacitor coupled) the 4 big fat red ones, for each phase for each channel of the balanced output in tube mode.

http://schiit.com/public/upload/general/freya-PCB-1920.jpg .

Cheers George

For what it's worth, I did some detailed research on passive preamp stepped attenuators a while back for a different project.  The conclusion I came to was that the current products available from Khozmo were the absolute superior in any passive preamp.  Since you are running unbalanced RCA interconnects in your system (based on Exposure 17), a Khozmo Passive Preamp  Dual Mono with input selector (with what looks like 3 sources) is $558 shipped to US with all options (such as Vishay nude Zfoil and Takman REX shunt resistors).  They can be built with an impedance of anywhere from 10k all to way up to 200k, depending on the best impedance for your system.  That being said, this is truly passive and not introducing any sonic signature at all.  You are entirely dependent on the sonic signature of your turntable and amp.  Since your using a turntable, this might be an option.  I would not normally recommend a passive preamp for a digital DAC, unless you were using a tube-based DAC or a DAC with a nice Class A based output stage.

That being said, the amp may not have enough gain to work well with a passive preamp.  Some amps can have a gain as low as 26db.  While this can, obviously, work with passive preamp, usually people like to have an amplifier with a gain of 30db or more if they are using a passive preamp.  I couldn't find the gain for your Dual Reg 4 amp.

Since my experience and skillset is all on the solid-state side, I will refrain from giving a strong recommendation.  However, I did do a little bit of research into ARC in the last 8 months (just for the heck of it).  What I found is that ARC usually seems to be more neutral and fast for a tube device (definitely not slow or laid back like some tubes).  However, I did find that you could not try different tubes because the tube choice of ARC can only be obtain from one Russian manufacturer.  This won't be like swapping out 12ax7 tubes to get your preferred signature.  I will say that ARC puts a --tremendous-- amount of work into designing, testing and fine-tuning their designs.  All their equipment is hand-built and hand-soldered.  Their board layout and design are excellent.  All board traces are very thick and heavy for good current transfer in signal and power supply.  That being said, they are designing towards their own idea of the "best sonic signature", which may or may not be what your idea is.  Their listening room is also setup a certain way (they use a LOT of QRD diffusion panels on the front/side walls which may affect the end-result sound).

If I was into tubes, I would probably heavily consider an ARC preamp.  For example, there's an LS26 on audiogon now for $2489

Thanks for all the help so far. 

I guess I am going to listen to some Arc again. I am going to email the current president of Exposure. He responds quickly. Hopefully he will know the gain off hand. Also info about running a passive into the dual 4. 

Jeff Rowland has never been on my radar. Will do some research. 
In your budget range, you have a lot of good preamps to choose from.

I recently upgraded my preamp and ended up choosing a Don Sachs custom 6SN7 model 1:  http://www.dsachsconsulting.com/custom%20line%20stage.html

Base model is $1,699 with the following options available:

• Change one pair of basic 6SN7 tubes to Shuguang Black Treasure CV181z $129
• Upgrade from cherry case to walnut $40
• All film cap power supply using Mundorf Tube Caps $150
• Change one set of RCA inputs to XLR (balanced) using high quality Cinemag line transformers $225
• Change the output capacitors to one pair of Jupiter Copper Caps $60
• Change the output capacitors to one pair of Duelund CAST PIO-Cu (expensive, but even better) $375

Since all units are custom built, Don will build your preamp to match your particular amp. I can attest that Don is very knowledgeable, honest and really knows his stuff!