Fidelity Research FR-64 vs. FR-54

Dear @lewm : Yes, that's what I mean. Was that University whom help us to achieve matched pairs because the ones we choosed was single bipolar devices. Before the matching task personally we choosed one single manufactured bipolar over several other different manufactured bipolars, as I said in my mposts not all bipolars sounds exactly the same even if measured the same.

"""  why should I think that this makes the 3150 unbeatable? """ I never mentioned that.

What I said is that even that the matced pairs in the MAT02 and MAT03 are good ones was not the MATs what I was looking for our Essential design. As I told you, ML choosed both MATs at the end of the 80s in my monoblocks. I knew it very well and I want it something better that fortunatelly we found out.

Btw, what sincerely makes the 3160 unbeatable is the whole design, the very fine details we care on it and of course its quality level performance.

Sorry that you thougth that I'm insulting on purpose your system, it's not that way. 

Look, why any one could wants to integrate in his audio system that kind of quality level performance only for the next system link " destroyed/massacred " that quality levels.?. Even that, any one with my unit in those tube systems heard it the differences for the better even that almost all were biased/equalized and accustomed for many years to the quality levels of tubes and a well designed SS item is way different and we have to try not only to understand it but assimilate it step by step: we have to re-set all what we are accustom to and start to understand the new medium. Just as when we start to enjoy digital sources.

There are many things that surrounded the SS great experiences but rigth now I have to give and answer to the audio dover's trainer.


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC not distortions,
R.

@thekong : Comes for more?, no problem this is the rigth place to " enjoy " it:

first I name it both because ( I think ) were the only that heard the 3160 when I returned to their places but FC posted his opinion in the link I posted:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/experience-with-raul-s-essential-3150/post?postid=326188#3261... 

and this is one of his posts on my third USA trip ( second time with him. ) when the 3160 was there:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/our-home-system-how-good-it-is/post?postid=351309#351309

Yes, I know you can't live with that gentleman opinions. But you can't do nothing about because that's the quality levels of the Essential first version.

Now and first than all my apologies to the gentleman you are talking but I have to " enligth " you " life " and is you whom are mading a damage to him due to your ignorance:

in a meeting there through a listening session with around 8  gentlemans ( one of them a Dagogo's reviewer. ) and making comparisons things were that no one but me took in count that the system owner all tube ( four chasis/boxes. ) phonoline item had a serious fault: its left channel was down around 2db-4db against the rigth channel. 
This sole fact can tell you the level of those 8 pairs of golden ears touted by you.

Again sorry to post this again. There are many other issues that I can't disclose here or elsewhere, so please stop to damage other people because you don't know nothing about and I mean it.

Please do what you do the best: teach to other people as you did it with dover.


"""  shared you view of tubes being inferior to SS. Even an owner of your phonolinepreamp was (and still is, I believe) using tube amp. """

well, as you read it all those gentlemans including L.Walker were listening the Essential and you know what?:


"""  but the Walker table really can expose
any downstream troubles. The synergy between the Walker and the Essential
was overwhelming.
I must say that the sound in that system that day from the sweet spot is one
of the best sounding to my ears that I've heard in 25 years in this hobby.
Without a doubt, the most musical of about 5 times hearing various Kharmas.
Whether listening to classical, jazz or rock, everything sounded balanced
and natural. Dynamics, tonality, transparency, we heard it all. So many toes
were tapping, we looked like an audio-geek chorus line!
About 40-50 members of our audio club were at this demo, spread out over
about 6 hours, so perhaps some others who attended will chime in here with
their impressions. From the reactions I heard, I think many were
dumbfounded, as I was. """

yes, as a chorus line including me. Joe's owner was really enjoy it.  I will never forgot all those great people talking each to other on what each one of us like: MUSIC and enjoying it. Who can ask for more?   

Regards and enoy the MUSIC not DISTORTIONS,
R.

It's weird that all Essential owners I never meet them and never listened the Essential before bougth it.

@thekong : Comes for more?

Hi Raul, coming back? No, I was always here waiting for your reply on how your room / turntable system could defy physic and be immune to the airborne feedback (also remarked by Mr J Carr)!

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/our-home-system-how-good-it-is/post?postid=351309#351309

This is really enlightening, you were praising the systems you had visited, and some of them even had TUBE equipment!!! WOW!

Yes, I know you can't live with those gentleman opinions. But you can't do nothing about because that's the quality levels of the Essential first version.

Which gentleman’s opinions are you referring to? Most of the thread was talking about other audio issues rather than your phonolinepreamp.

I can surely live with those gentlemen's opinions, but did any of them agree with you that tube must be inferior to SS?

I believe more in people’s action than their words! If you bother to check the systems of the participants in that thread (those that is listed in Virtual Systems), you will see it is around 50/50 for all SS system vs systems with tubes.

in a meeting there through a listening session with around 8 gentlemans ( one of them a Dagogo's reviewer. ) and making comparisons things were that no one but me took in count that the system owner all tube ( four chasis/boxes. ) phonoline item had a serious fault: its left channel was down around 2db-4db against the rigth channel.
This sole fact can tell you the level of those 8 pairs of golden ears touted by you.

Just to be clear, I never mentioned those gentlemen's names until you did!

This is very interesting, so now you are saying those gentlemen’s listening skill are questionable? If so, then why do you always quote members' praise to your phonolinepreamp, as if those are facts?

Oh, I get it, anyone who praises your phonolinepreamp must have good listening skill; all those who prefer something else just don’t. Is that it?

It's weird that all Essential owners I never meet them and never listened the Essential before bougth it.

Oh, do you really mean "all Essential owners"? If so, then are you saying that all those who you had met and had listened to the Essential didn't buy it? That is weird, or is it?!!!

Hi: """  I object to his claim that he has superior listening capability "AHEE" to everyone else on this forum """

I never said or posted that anywhere in any forum.

Slow amps?, well could be but the mods I made it helps a lot because both the audio signal goes directly to the input circuit board ( by-passing some original stages. ) and the power electrical signal goes directly too.

In the other side I had several amplifiers in my system that my dealer's friends want it to check or that I ask for: Audio Note, VTL, Gryphon, Krell, modern MLs, Pass, FM Acoustics, Coda, Parasound, Classe, Boulder and other ones.

The dealers and audio friends never made a comment on that specific regards and I never detected that my monobloks are " slow ". Even the original specs, reviews and other owners never reported about.

R.

Dear @dover : Btw, please tell me what to look to be aware/detect if my amps are slow or not and specific LP tracks ( 5-6 ) where I can detect it. The amps I can have easily to compare are: FM Acoustics and Gryphon.

In the other side why do you think my amps are slow and slow compared against which specific amps?

Thank's in advance, appreciated.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC not DISTORTIONS,
R.