JollyT, You've got the experience of actually listening to the Universe line in your system. So, I am in no position to doubt what you say. If the Uni II and the Uni Premium are progressively better than the original Uni, then I guess I have something to look forward to, should I find either one at a good price. By the same token, Chakster, it might be premature for you to judge the ZYX line if you have not heard any of the Uni's in your system. Years ago, Doug Deacon posted a comparison of the Airy 4D to the original Uni, and he found the latter to be decidedly superior. For my part, I would say that the Uni might end up superior to any of my vintage MM or MI cartridges (IMO, of course), but it's too soon to say. For sure, it's up there with the best of that bunch.