Placement tips for Synergistic Research HTFs


I just bought 15 HTFs and will also be making about a dozen of Ozzie's homemade models.  While I will re-fresh myself with SR's placement tips, and I get that I will have to do some experimenting to tailor the HFT effect to MY listening room; are there any "Advanced HFT Placement Tips" some of you would like to share with us?  Something that might be overlooked by many of us?  Or maybe, just a good rule-of-thumb tip for someone just starting to use these?
The tips could be tips for bring out more highs, solidifying the bass response, placement hi vs low, in front of vs behind speakers, on side walls, at reflection points, behind the listener, on the ceiling above the equipment or above the listener, on the equipment.
Any ah-ha that you would like to share?  I would also be very interested in hearing from people using Magnapans.

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toddverrone
Geoff - You did. I checked the link and you provide loads of info. Sorry, I should have checked your site. I’m so used to manufacturers who don’t actually get into the science and just make claims on their sites.

I'm not like all those other guys. 😛

geoffkait, it's interesting that toddverrone has reversed himself and is now satisfied that your link answered his question. Which negates my earlier comments based on what he had to say in his original post. But since you mention "some experimentation is usually necessary to establish ideal locations for Brilliant Pebbles in a given room/system" I note that this also applies to resonators -- as ozzy rightly pointed out in an earlier post.
I have always maintained the SPL meter and test tone method is superior to trial and error for any type of resonator, transducer, Brilliant Pebbles included. My directions on the page for Brilliant Pebbles include the SPL meter recommendation. Some applications for Brilliant Pebbles are straightforward and don’t require a SPL meter, but they might require experimentation. For example, sometimes the pebbles work on top of speaker cabinets, sometimes they don’t; sometimes they work next to small vacuum tubes, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they work on connectors of IC, sometimes they don’t. There are several sizes of pebbles each with its own set of applications. That’s really what I meant by "some experimentation might be required."

But for room walls and room corners you want the resonators to go where they will do the most good, which is where the peak SPLs are located, including in the 3D space of the room. In room corners on the floor Large BrillIant Pebbles is usually very effective. But SPL meter and test tone sometimes reveals that the exact corner may not be the absolute best in some cases, the very best location might be say, 12" in one direction or the other from the corner. This is also true for Tube Traps.

So one can get good results by trial and error by locating *local maximums* but SPL meter + test tone can locate the *real maximums*. If a customer buys only 3 Brilliant Pebbles he might not require a SPL meter and test tone, but once the number of resonators becomes high using a better methodolgy than trial and error becomes important. Without a methodology like the SPL meter + test tone trying to find the ideal locations for resonators is like trying to solve N number of simultaneous equations in N+5 unknowns. In other words you're gonna need a super computer. Hel-loo!

Todd & others,

My link to the big brass caps doesn't work.  Here is the path to the location:
Go to: Valleyhydraulic.com
click on "Shop by department" 
in the drop down select "Brass fittings"  
in the drop down select "Brass pipe fittings" 
in the last drop down select "Brass caps & plugs",
This takes you to the parts selection page.  The large caps you're looking for are the:  Brass 1/4" Female Pipe Caps.

The 1/8" caps are a possibility too, but in my stereo I didn't like them as much.  It may may be that some of you have already found these caps by hunting around the site.  Yesterday I ordered a few for my other stereo and so I could have some spares.  Today, when I went back to the site to write down the path to the caps, I noticed the caps have gone up in price. I guess Valley Hydraulics Co. is not a patron of the arts.


geoffkait,

You stated that "I have always maintained the SPL meter and test tone method is superior to trial and error for any type of resonator, transducer, Brilliant Pebbles included." No problem. This is what you maintain. This is your opinion. You have the right to maintain your opinion just as others have the right to maintain theirs.

I maintain that there is a lot more to resonators/transducers than SPL metering. Metering may be helpful in some cases, to some extent. But there are many possible methodologies or combinations of methodologies that may be used to obtain good results. Metering is just one. If your meter-only system works for you then no one will say no. But what will work best for others is for them to discover, not for anyone else to decide.