Placement tips for Synergistic Research HTFs


I just bought 15 HTFs and will also be making about a dozen of Ozzie's homemade models.  While I will re-fresh myself with SR's placement tips, and I get that I will have to do some experimenting to tailor the HFT effect to MY listening room; are there any "Advanced HFT Placement Tips" some of you would like to share with us?  Something that might be overlooked by many of us?  Or maybe, just a good rule-of-thumb tip for someone just starting to use these?
The tips could be tips for bring out more highs, solidifying the bass response, placement hi vs low, in front of vs behind speakers, on side walls, at reflection points, behind the listener, on the ceiling above the equipment or above the listener, on the equipment.
Any ah-ha that you would like to share?  I would also be very interested in hearing from people using Magnapans.

toolbox149
@ozzy I like the resonators on top of the speaker cabinets. They seem to make the ceiling disappear. Thanks for the tip.

Toolbox - I made 10 of the heavier bottom resonators. There's a pic of one on my system page. I was able to press fit them in using a hex socket to push them in and make them expand enough to stay put, even after I had to forcefully yank the socket out.

The sound is different.. the dimensions of the soundstage are the same, but the heft or weight of the sound is greater. Mids and bass are tighter and clearer. I'll use the copper based ones around the room as keep the heavy brass bottoms on my speakers and rack. Thanks for suggesting that base. And I misread your reviews.. the other resonators I made were tied for second. I was wondering why I was liking them so much and if the other base could really be that much better. 

This has been fun! We're such dorks.
toddverrone,

You may want to try different placements on speakers -- rear, bottom, sides and top. I use mostly small resonators on my speakers.

sabai
"geoffkait,
I favor using at least 3 modalities. How do you know how many people are getting "mixed results" and are "forced to go back to ... using only a few resonators"? Have you taken a survey of resonator users? How large was the survey sample? Where is the proof for your categorical claim -- upon which you conclude that "trial and error is inherently flawed"? The proof is in your head and nowhere else.

You are right. I will not accept your shallow and flawed explanation. It obviously does not deserve to be accepted at face value. But, as always, you are convinced that you are the forum authority on whatever you care to expound on. No other possibilities exist after you make your pronouncements from the audio pulpit. Who indeed could care less about audio preachers who twist reason into audio pretzels -- in order to stay in the forum limelight to catch new customers? How’s business this week? Lol."

Sabai, you are a victim of the Backfire Effect and unable to deal with any point of view that disagrees with yours. I wasn’t even addressing you. It all comes down to education and experience. Your "modalities" are outmoded. I will leave you where I found you.

Sabai - I've two resonators on the back of my speakers, one on the outer side as one on the top. I've ordered the brass bowls in a smaller size to make smaller resonators. We'll see where those end up..
I made 4 triangular venturi several years back. One each cut to fit my speakers on top. Because my speakers have no right angles or flat surface I had to seal the area between the edges of the device on its bottom surface and the top of the speaker. I used high quality black electrical tape to make the acoustic seal. I did this so the air had to run thru the venturi. The 2 much larger ones I place into the room on the floor venturi facing up. They work the best when Audio Points are used as mechanical grounds. Again I sealed the air gap between the carpeted floor and the device..this time I used wool felt bought on a role. You can tune the sonic impression of the devices by changing the finish on the surface either flat or shiny rough or smooth..the outside could be finished different than the inside. Thats all. Tom