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Parasound vs Primaluna vs Alternatives

I realize this is comparing two different types of amps, but thats kinda the idea here.

I currently own a Parasound A31 which powers my front left, center, and front right channels. 


However I am only currently concerned and focused on 2 channel stereo listening when it comes to this decision. 

Basically, I would love to delve into the tube world (tube rolling appeals to me) and I have read nothing but good reviews on Primaluna products.

I do a lot of listening of both vinyl via my soon-to-be-replaced Project debut carbon with AT440MLa MM cartridge, as well as digital via Audirvana, Tidal, and tons of DSD files from my Mac Mini.

Everything runs from either a Mac Mini or turntable into a Brooklyn DAC which outputs to Marantz 7702 in Pure Direct mode to current Parasound A31. 

Current Loudspeakers are Tekton Double Impacts. 


Basically, I am very curious about what would really change by switching the Parasound for something like a well respected tube amp like the Primaluna Dialogue HP? Ideally I would love something that would increase my sound stage and provide as holographic and precise an image as possible. Absolutely love closing my eyes and feeling the exact space of the recording. 


Thoughts and suggestions all appreciated. 

Thanks

128x128whacky
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whacky OP
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Appreciate the input. 

I'll have to delve in the Double Impact thread. See what I can see. 

So far I am loving these loudspeakers. They've opened up a world of new musical interest for me. But now that voice in the back of my head is definitely telling me the tube route is the way based on my experience with the speakers.  

I definitely like the appeal of an easy to own and modify amp like the an autobiasing Primaluna. Try different tubes with ease. But anything in the ~$4K range will be strongly considered as well. 


Also, side note from above. Connected the Brooklyn DAC directly to the parasound via balanced connection, hence bypassing my Marantz, and the sound appreciably improved. Noticeable improvement in clarity and air. Love it.  


kdude66
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Whacky,

I also own DI's and with the exception of using a tube preamp I mainly use solid state amps.Even though prima Luna makes a good amp they mostly use Kt88 or el34 in a push pull topology and in my opinion they will never sound like a true single ended triode such as the 300b,2a3,or the 45.

Pass Labs and or first watt makes amps that give most of the good qualities of tube amps,something to check into the good thing is the DI's are easy to drive giving lots of amp options.

My other system has Zu audio definitions and I use a Yamamoto A09s which is a 300b set.

Modwright kwa-100 is another good choice for solid state also having similar qualities to tubes.

I don't mean to confuse you with more choices but realistically the majority of amps listed are going to better the parasound in the sound qualities you may desire.

Take your time and do some reading and I hope you find what you are looking for.


Kenny.

mmrkaic
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Why would you go from a amp with good measured characteristics, like Parasound, to something like Primaluna? Have you seen any Primaluna reviews? Have you looked at their distortion numbers??
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chumsusi
26 posts
 
Hi,

Since you have the efficient speakers, you might want to consider Line Magnetic integrated amplifiers like LM 518ia or even LM 219ia. I owned Primaluna Dialogue Premium Integrated amp for over two years and enjoyed it very much. However, I switched to LM 218ia with very little hesitation once I got a chance to audition their products. 

The Dialogue Premium is a great amp but LM 518ia is a beast. LM products also have the LM 211ia and LM 216ia which use EL34 tubes and KT88 tubes like the Dialogue. You might want to read some reviews on the LM products.

Again, I am only giving you my opinion for your consideration. I hope you find a match amp for your system.

Binh
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jmac7
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I second the Line Magnetics 508IA. I have been through several amps including a Prima Luna and the LM is the best sounding amp that I have ever used. Of course, this is to my ears,and in my system.
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