VPI 2nd Pivot for 3D


I just installed mine and discovering my old records anew.  I thought I knew everything there was to know on the original pressing of Fleetwood Mac's Rumers......but no - there's more.  You immediately hear a more solid bass, but then the dynamics hit hard.  It sounds like my amp is on steroids.  More cleanliness, - everything is better.  Very highly recommended.
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Dear @folkfreak : It's obvious that the tonearm in that you tube video is an unipivot design or a gimball one with a severe extreme bearing damages.

The video is a " dramatization " that helps to understand what is happening in continuious way at microscopic stylus tip during play of any cartridge in any unipivot tonearm design and in little lower way in quai-unipivot ones.

Forces are so huge that gravity alone can't correct it.


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

My guess is the artistic director decided on substituting with a unipivot because it looked less boring than a gimballed one ;^)


Is it possible though, Raul, that even gimballed arms aren’t entirely "torsionally stable"? The movements may be small but real due to a necessary amount of bearing "play". I remember, decades ago, Syrinx used offset bearings to try to improve this and resonance behaviour.

In fact I used to own a Syrinx PU2... ;^)

Not surprisingly the LF performance really was something to write home about :)

"It has been experimentally shown that with such high pressures and forces of friction between stylus and the vinyl, that the outer skin layer of the record material melts as the tip slides over the plastic and then refreezes almost as fast as it melted. It has been suggested that since the melting temperature of vinyl is about 480 °F (248 °C) that the same temperature exists in the contact area.”

Thank you again very much Raul for supplying the biggest laughs I am getting this week this claim is absolutely astoundingly extraordinary and it is obviously intended NOT to be taken seriously perhaps as a lesson that we should not believe everything we read or perhaps as a lesson that "fake news" is not a new phenomenon! It should be patently obvious to anyone with even a limited understanding of thermodynamics or who even knows how to operate a common household thermostat that a record does not go from room temperature to melting to freezing (!!!!) all in an instant simply because a stylus passes over it. While I suppose a conjecture could be made and it is only a conjecture that a stylus may heat a record due to friction but to suggest that it will melt the vinyl and then FREEZE It is beyond silly it is so funny thank you, Raul!

What would be really great is if we could capture those FREEZING temperatures and conduct them in such a way to offset the heat produced by our tube amplifiers! That would be great especially in the summer months Raul will you please use Google to see if that can be done and then cut and paste cut and paste and cut and paste and cut and paste cut and paste and cut and paste and cut and paste and cut and paste some more and share that with us??? Thank you and thanks again for the big laughs you made my day your stuff gets funnier and funnier.
The many versions of VPI arms that can use pivot damping fluid are very stable, and have no wobble.

I have heard the 3D arms, and they have nothing over a properly setup metal VPI arm, IMO!

The 3D arms look cheap!

The new second pivot "supposed improvement" is simply "expectation" bias - nothing to shoot out about.

stringreen is a long time VPI shill!

I like VPI, but I am not "mad" about all their newer products.
Don - you do not know what you’re talking about. I’m sure you are not a VPI fan, but if you don’t know what truth is, you shouldn’t post to steer subscribers in the wrong direction. Damping fluid in the metal VPI arms can be useful if you want to tune out a wart in your speakers, etc....in truth the damping fluid in a high end system reveals a closing in of the soundstage. Even with the damping fluid, the metal arms wobble.The metal VPI arms are very good, but the 3D’s are exceptional....ranking with the very best, even if they too wobble. If the look of the 3D is not pleasing, you can always glue diamonds to it....if the arm breaks, there is the VPI team that will readily repair/replace the arm. The 2nd pivot on the already excellent 3D that does not wobble,will make you want to re-listen to your records. I am a long time purchaser of VPI. I have a Supersoutmaster/rim drive/SDS/3D/2nd pivot. I even have one of their black VPI polo shirts that Harry sent me after helping me with an issue.