Wilson Audio Duette 2's vs Tekton Ulf's


Help...I am going crazy reading the Tekton DI forum.  And now there are comments regarding the Ulf.  I have a pair of Wilson Audio Duette 2's.  I have two Triad Silver in wall Subwoofers to complement the bass from the Duette 2's.  My integrated tube amp is Raven Audio Reflection MK2 with 58wpc.  That combination has been absolutely awesome for me in a room that is 30'wide x 40' long.  Yes, I know not the perfect listening room but the music that comes out of my system sounds like a concert hall.  In addition, I have a Lumin A-1 DAC / Music Streamer and a Synology hard drive for music storage.  I love my system.  This is strictly 2- channel as I have a separate dedicated theater room also.  

Originally, for fun I was going to buy the Tekton DI and just compare them to the Duette 2's.  I figured I would compare the two speakers and sell the ones that I did not like as much.  Yes, they are two totally different speakers.  Then, the Ulf's came out and Eric said they blow the doors off of the DI's.  Naturally, I am interested in the Ulf's.  However, in this situation, I would need to sell my Duette 2's before ordering the Ulf's.  Am I crazy?  I am comparing the Duette's that cost $23k vs a Tekton Mini or Ulf at $7.5k to 12k.  

I live in the Phoenix area.  If there are any audiophiles out here that would not mind listening to my current system and telling me what you think I would love to hear your comments.  It is very hard for me to give an objective opinion on my system.  Like I said I love it....but like all of us, if there is a way to improve it we do it.  I just don't know if the Tekton Ulf's are an upgrade over my Wilson's.
willgolf
Beware, as many have said of, 'A friend of mine said', advice. I would never buy any speaker that I had not auditioned. To me that's the only way to really know. Plus, there's the added benefit of anticipation, audition... foreplay if you will, the beating heart of being an audiophile.

Good luck.
Larry
willgolf,

My friend who owns the Wilson's has been to my house twice and has listened to my system.

He loved the sound and pretty much agreed with my previous assessment of the 2 speakers,now Offcourse we both realize that each set of speakers were heard with different gear and most importantly in different rooms.

I offered to him with his help that we could try my speakers in his system but he declined only because his wife would have nothing to do with such large speakers in her living room.

I can understand that because they are big and I'm lucky my wife is very understanding of my audio obsessions,she likes the sound almost as much as me.😃

Best set of luck to you,
Kenny.
This is an interesting conversation, I find it disturbing that you fan boys are jumping on missionconnory whose comments seem to be one of rationality against all the Tekton hype. If his friend actually heard the speakes and say they sound like JBLs that may be a valid comment and that may be exactly how his freind feels after demoing the speakers.

I have been playing in this industry for over 40 years and there have been tons of companies making claims of building the greatest x y or z and selling that product at a fraction of the price of the majors and sometimes these same companies are also touting revolutionary patented technlogy do you remember the JSE and infinite slope crossover technology? How about Spica?

I recently heard the often touted $500 Elacs they were okay at best not a giant killer, just a good speaker for the money.

One previlent theme in audiophilia land is how many people are not willing to spend the money to invest in the real companies that invest millions of dollars in research and buiild better products these include the KEF Blade and the Paradigm Personas over the magic claims of a tiny company such as Tekton or the Wilsons of this world.

Is this the allure of the underdog, or is it the incredulous nature of industry to promote the small boutique manufacturers over the larger players.

We had the Blades setup a the NY Audio Show in 2013 and they sounded as good at the $107k YG did you hear anyone even talking about this in the magazines? To date only one British reviewer actually came out and said the Blades sound as good as the $60-70k speakers, so even some of the major players that are not the smaller boutique companies such as Wilson, Rockport, YG etc don’t get the same praise.

Eric may be a talented designer but audio is more about good engineering rather than magic and a company such as KEF or Paradigm can invest millions in research how much can Eric invest in R&D compared to the majors?

If his patent is so revolutionary many other engineers would be commenting on it, interesting how mum an entire industry is on this point and perhaps he would be making much more money licensing his patent or selling his company to one of the major companies for several million dollars and just retiring?

When Apple or Android produce radical technology you certainatly hear about it.

All of the fanboys may or may not be correct. The decdiding factor in all of this is the erronous model of factory direct vs dealers.

If the speakers were sold at dealers then the speaker buying public could hear these products and then compare them to the majors and judge for themselves the validity of these products this would validate the brand in a hurry, way more than passionate owners who may or may not know how to setup a good system or be so biased to justify their purchase.

The Tektons are so cheap a price upgrade to accomodate a normal dealer network would still make his speakers bargins just less so then they are now and lets face it if you can afford to spend $3k on a set of speakers you can pay $5k as well.

As per Wilson, the Duettes are lovely and like all WIlson loudspeakers heinsouly overpriced for a company that employs very ordinary drivers that are actually quite inexpensive compared to the cost of their loudspeakers.

Only time will tell if Tekton is building something really special or over hyped, just like the Elacs.

I have not heard the speakers so these comments are from someone who is still standing outside of this argument, Tekton may be currenlty bargins for the sound they produce or not.

Kdude your arguement is also specious a pair of Deuttes will never sound like a larger speaker and even with bass they will still sound smaller and you never mentioned if the Duettes were being used with subs without subs in a large room the speakers are going to sound anemic.

It is impossible to compare the sound of two entirely different systems with different components in two entirely different homes.

Scientific method you change out one set of speaekers for another, compare the same track switch and repeat and note what changes for the better or worse with the same gear, same room same everything.

The concept of a monitor with subs is not the same sound as a larger floorstanding loudspeaker, and if you remember my Wilson comments I am not a WIlson fanboy either, too many Audiophiles fall for their hype as well, I would take a pair of Kef Blades, Paradigm Persons, Dali Epicons, or a set of Legacy Aeris over most of the Wilson products.

Now watch the attacks come at me from the fanboys for daring to raise these points.

Weren’t the Tektons at a recent Audio show with somewhat muted response? If they were at a show and didn’t generate possitive feedback with the reviewers to me that says something interesting. If the speakers were so remarkable don’t you think they would have faired better?

Now I will end the following I am ready to drink the coolaid if I ever get to hear a set of these speakers in my shop where I hang out in, and I can compare them to the sound of the majors brands can I judge for myself.


Troy


Troy,

I've been in this hobby almost as long as you and I understand your very valid points in proper system and speaker comparisons but if you read again what I said in my post there was no reason to move forward with any more evaluation the Waf killed the deal.

Your point about the Tekton patient is spot on,I have read it several times and It's only referring to a general idea and is very vague.

Hopefully you can hear some Tekton speakers sometime and then you would have a true opinion without speculation.

My budget for speakers is 40k but Offcourse I got one heck of a bargain with the DI's and couldn't be happier.Are They the last speaker I ever buy probably not.

I have been told by Mike Kay of audio archon that he will be getting the SE version of the DI's for demo and the SE version is dealer only.

Kenny.
As the starter of this thread, it is interesting to read all of your diverse thoughts.  I have made a decision and I am going to list my Wilson's for sale on Thursday.  I truly love them and they are in perfect condition but my room is massive and I need a full size speaker.  A friend of mine is going to lend me his Legacy Aeris system for a week with my Raven Amp.  If I like them I may go that route.  If not, I will also consider the Mini Ulf's or look for a good pair of used Magico's, or something else.  I would fly to Utah to hear the Ulf's before committing to Tekton.  It is to early for used Paradigm Persona 9H's to be available.  I am not a fan of B&W, mid price range Sonus Fabers, and my spouse would not accept the look of KEF.  The Aeris just might work because the speakers must be placed within 6 inches of the rear wall and with the Wavelet correction system it should help.  $20k is my top end.   I have been told the Aeris will blow away my Wilson's so it will be fun to compare the two.