Best Drum Solos


I'm finding that I've been REALLY enjoying drum solos on my system lately. They seem to work the whole speaker, from the kick drum in the woofers, to the tom-tom in the midrange, and the cymbals and high hats in the tweeters. And when it all comes together, they are the instrument I have the easiest time seeing in front of myself.

I searched the forums titles to see if there were any good drum solo discussions going on, but I didn't see any. So here we go. In no particular order, here are some drum solos I've found to be very high quality:

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - The Drum Thunder Suite
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Caravan
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Far More Drums
Led Zeppelin - Moby Dick
Max Roach - Max's Variations

What are your favorite drum solos to listen to on your system? 
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Loomis, I completely agree about John Bonham---"behind-the-beat" is exactly right! Some drummers like to be the engine at the front of the train, pulling the band along. Bonham was at the back of the "pocket", pushing the band from behind. The players I like are those who play in the deepest part of the pocket---dead center. Listen to "634-5789" by Wilson Pickett; Roger Hawkins (with David Hood on bass) creates the deepest, most incredible pocket I’ve ever heard! The great studio drummer Jim Keltner (Ry Cooder arranges his recording sessions around Jim’s availablility!) says he wished he played more like Roger!

A moment in time has a little "spread", a visual representation being a "V". The deepest part of the pocket is the bottom of the V. Some drummers play a little in front of (before) that moment in time, some a little behind (later than). Bonham was the latter. When I played a three-night gig with Jonny Kaplan in late 2007, after the first night he asked me to play a little "later", that I was at the front of the pocket (Jonny has a great sense of timing). What?! I listened for what he heard as we played night two, after which he asked for it still later. It wasn’t until I was driving home from the final night (with which he was finally satisfied!) that it occurred to me---Jonny learned Country-Rock not from Dylan, The Band, The Byrds, or any other American outfit, but from the Let It Bleed-era Stones. Charlie Watts is another drummer who plays late (is it a British thing?!), and that’s the way Jonny likes it (he’s a huge Keith Richards fan).

Loomis characterized Bonham as ’lumbering", which is an apt adjective. I hear that trait in a lot of drumming, partly because of the tendency of young drummers to "bury the beater" (leave the bass drum pedal’s beater head mashed into the drum’s batter head after a note is played, rather than letting it rebound away), and to play every bd stroke as hard as possible, using no dynamics, and without "feathering". That’s the manner in which Bonham played bd. To me, it sounds like every time the bass drum beater is buried in the head time abruptly stops, then starting again anew. The sense of flow is disrupted, the music becoming disjointed.

Early in The Who’s recorded output and live shows, Keith Moon was at the leading/front edge of the pocket (sometimes completely out of it, way out ahead of Pete and John). As his drinking increased, he started playing pretty far behind the pulse/beat/pocket, ruining The Who for me. I hear it starting on "Live At Leeds", and in full bloom by the time of "Won’t Get Fooled Again". Early in The Beatles career, Ringo’s playing was right where I like it---deep in the pocket. Unfortunately, his playing too took a nosedive, timing-wise, as he got older (and started drinking with Keith!). Listen to Ringo playing along with Levon Helm in The Last Waltz in 1976; Levon is in deep pocket, Ringo is way late, sluggishly following along behind, like the caboose on a train, not at the front like an engine. Sad.

wow. i can sorta fake string instruments and keys, but have a genetic drumming deficiency, so gh's and bdp's perspective is ear-opening. my thoughts at large:
1. charlie watts is slightly overrated but very disciplined--he lacks power but is supposed to be behind the beat, which is supposed to be the formula
2.  always dug keith moon, despite his obvious excesses--he swings. i need to listen more critically to his later stuff to see where he drags.
3. the best drummers to me,  outside of the godlike blakey/elvin jones ilk, were bobby elliott from the hollies and mick avory from the kinks, in the sense of service to the song.
thank you sincerely for your thoughtful responses.
I am a drummer and I don’t really like drum solos as a groove feel is more important to me and just as difficult as all the crazy technical skill.

Here is an example of both groove and tremendous technical skill and independence and good mix of musical polyrhythms (Latin Cuban style) - the groove is really solid and he accents to highlight the different rhythm feels. About half way through he goes real deep with groove - here he is playing with time with hands (behind the beat) but the feet marking time perfectly. This is exactly how it is should be done!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvBRTHxsXCw

I saw Keith Moon live twice (’68 and ’69), and he was as punchy and exciting as any drummer I’ve heard live. The only other I saw like him was Buddy Miles in The Electric Flag (with Mike Bloomfield, of course). A great drummer makes a band his, and both of those guys did just that. Zak Starkey (Ringo’s kid) is doing a great job in The Who now.

I too love Mick Avory, Loomis (saw him live twice also). Did you know that’s not he playing drums on the early Kinks hit singles ("You Really Got Me", "All Day and All Of The Night", etc.) and some album tracks? That was British studio drummer Bobby Graham, a great player. Mick, believe it or not, preceded Charlie Watts in The Stones, though only in their very early rehearsal-only period, never gigging with them. Charlie himself is an odd player, somewhat stiff and awkward. But he has his charm, Jim Keltner feeling The Stones are Charlie’s band, not Keith’s (and certainly not Mick’s!).

Once I became aware of studio-only (mostly) drummers, their style of drumming became my gold standard---taste, economy, and musicality. Hal Blaine of course, Kenny Buttrey (Nashville---Dylan, Neil Young’s harvest album), Earl Palmer (New Orleans Jazz drummer, but heard on many 1950’s Rock ’n’ Roll records), Roger Hawkins as I’ve already mentioned, Jims Gordon (Joe Cocker, Delaney & Bonnie, Derek & The Dominoes, Traffic, Dave Mason’s great Alone Together album) and Keltner (Ry Cooder, Bill Frisell, John Hiatt, Little Village, Randy Newman, George Harrison, The Traveling Wilbury’s), D.J. Fontana (early Elvis), David Kemper (Dylan, T Bone Burnett. Like Keltner, he’s from Tulsa Oklahoma), Buddy Harman (Nashville studio great), Al Jackson Jr. (Booker T & The MG’s), lots of others. What made Levon Helm particularly unusual was that he played like a studio drummer, but was in a self-contained group.


Saw Buddy Miles in Charlotte years back with one of his backup bands. Small venue. So loud that people started leaving and he got into a nasty altercation with one of the audience members (not me lol) then cranked the PA amps wide open. It was unbearable. What an ass.

Dave