Linn LP12......That good??

rossb, you think the platter is constantly trying to balance itself on top of three springs, while simultaneously resisting the sideways force of the belt???? Where does this come from???
How on earth do you think a suspended chassis turntable typically works...I guess you don’t believe in suspended chassis designs. To say that the speed stability with the Radikal is poor is just more ’bs’ IMHO.
Kuzma has great speed stability....due to what?? Frank Kuzma believes in a multi layer chassis hoping to do away with outside interference...question is does this really work better than a spring suspension..You tell me?
If you had a problem with speed stability with your LP12, it was simply because you either had it on a non-level surface, or you had no idea as to how to set it up, or both! Luckily with the Kuzma, it’s pretty much plonk it down anywhere and walk away, unfortunately with the LP12 you cannot get away wth that....as you found out!

mem2112- who fitted the Stiletto and Scorpion for you?

Varyvat,

I fitted them myself. I am also trained by a longtime Linn tech.
The Stiletto fitting is way easier than a stock Linn as it does not have 
a sprung/curved top plate to deal with. The stainless top plate requires proper fitting and is an artform in itself. If installed incorrectly, the suspension bolts are very difficult to get properly aligned for a correct bounce.
The stilletto does away with all of that hassle as it it is one piece precision and the suspension bolts are precision machined. I will repeat what I said earlier, the antiquated spring and gromet design is what makes the whole system a pain. Non concentic wire springs that are adjusted to conteract each other for a vertical bounce definately takes practice and experience to get it right. The fact this still exists today with better technology is a shame especially for the prices they cahrge and making most customers reliant on a set up technician. For a turntable with a storied history, Linn customers deserve better. Linn could of course correct this but they clearly are concerned with marketing other areas of their product line.

I am very familiar with the Stiletto- I did the demo at my dealer's in the UK last October. I am also very familiar with all of the Tangerine Audio products, I have a Karmen top plate on one of my decks. My dealer, Peter Swain, has a very close relationship with the owners of Tangerine products and he is usually one of the first people to evaluate their new products. I know the Scorpion base was in production- was not aware that these were already being shipped??

Rssb....You're absolutely right.  The Linn is inherently unstable.  I remember those days having the turntable on the Linn support so that I could get to adjust the springs.  Perfect.... after 1/2 hour....the heat in the house went on, and it started to bounce sideways again.  Everyone should get and enjoy what they want, but it was too time consuming for me....I had a day job already.  I should say that this was years ago...I don't know the new ones...they might have fixed it.