VPI 2nd Pivot for 3D
folkfreak To summarize @rauliruegas lengthy, incomprehensible and misspelled postThat's a fair summary. I would only add that Raul asserts his claims as "facts" and when pressed for proof, basically just repeats the assertion. Yet he demands rigorous proof from anyone else who cites a fact. So it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion with him, which is why I've given up. It's plain to see that Raul is wrong about unipivot pickup arms. I share his distaste for them. The difference is only that I consider it a preference. I'm not trying to convince anyone that "facts" support my preference, or that I have some special understanding of how they function. |
Perhaps this post is a progression too far, but may I suggest that we agree that there is no one, single, absolute "right" way to do anything in audio. That is true for every aspect from tonearms, to amplifiers, to speakers, to wires...whatever. Each of us has preferences in equipment, music and so forth. Accordingly, looking for "proof" of something like this is somewhat analogous to the search for the Holy Grail. |
Dear @folkfreak : Sorry for the misspelled but unfortunatelly my English is to bad, sorry. Now, you posted: """ I imagine myself as the cartridge tracking the record and I thereby know unipivots cannot work ..."""" you summarize in wrong way maybe because the misspelled post explanation. A better summarization could be to be certainly of what are the specific cartridge needs and what those specific cartridge needs really means and how a tonearm can fulfill it if exist one that can do it that certainly does not exist yet. How can you know if an unipivot can works fine with any cartridge if you don't know or can't understand which ones are its needs other than a tonearm holds it. When you learn those cartridge needs you will know for sure that two things that the cartridge does not needs are: unipivots and undamped tonearms and this is a fact that I don't need to prove it. What you and @cleeds needs is to do your job and find out for your self process which are and why those cartridges needs. Everything in the day by day world is changing where audiophiles are immutable, nothing change and we make nothing to change but stay sticky to old information thank's to that corrupted AHEE where any one of us belongs. Due to your immutability " stage " and with out be conceit or arrogant in anyway: I'm " ligth years " a head you enjoying MUSIC as you can't even imagine and not because I'm better than you only because I'm changing/learning/moving as the wrold does. Folkfreak good for you: stay immutable and sticky on what you like instead to change learning on what SHOULD BE. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |
@rauliruegas (respectfully) I have spent much time with gimballed (damped and undamped) and unipivot tonearms with a good variety of cartridges including some that are very demanding of the arm they are mounted on. All I can say is that in my experience I get better results (i.e more truth to the master tape, fewer distortions) with the pair of Durand’s I currently run. Of course you would argue that they are not actually unipivots as they have a second point of contact 😇 In comparison the last pair of traditional arms I ran (a TriPlanar VII and an SME IV) both failed to deal with the bass energy thrown off by my cartridges and distorted and became confused when stressed. This is not an issue I have ever had with my Durands (a Kairos and a Talea) Now per cleeds experience the downside of unipivots is the constant worry that they are not quite on (the point that is) -- other than that they are completely stable and foolproof Have you ever tried a Durand Raul? They might even convince you you still have something to learn ... |
