Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp
@hifial 

Al, Would you mind sharing bit more info on Setchi D-1 grounding blocks? Try to google them but didn't find any info on their merits. 

Thank you! 
Now that I have a hard wired, fast ethernet connection in the room, I'm going to set up the optical isolation and go from there.  I may try the ground units Al has brought up also.  I'm not sure what ethernet cables I'll be using though. I have loved the AQ diamond in the past and even the Vodka has been fine, but I was also told to get a top cat 8 cable.  I don't believe the AQ cables are Cat 8.  Not sure who makes cat 8 for the high end.  

I also notice that Ayre has my QX5/20 available with various inputs. I have the full assault with 10 inputs, but you can now get it with or without the USB and or ethernet or anyway you want or need it. Very interesting marketing.  I wonder if others will do the same??? 

Melco is supposed to have their own software being worked on.  I have reached out to a head engineer there to find out more about the future of their software and other things. I'll report back when he gets back in the lab in the next week or two.  

Seems like IRT servers that so much is going on.  Maybe even more so than what DAC's went though and still do.  Hard to keep up.  
@lalitk 

Sorry for the delay in answering your questions but I have been with family that have been visiting and today I was at a presentation by Thomas Fine, son of Robert and Wilma Fine, the legendary recording engineers of The Mercury Living Presence albums. This was arranged by the New Jersey Audiophile Society for one of our Club Meetings. 

WOW! What a presentation. If you ever have the chance DO NOT MISS THIS ONE! Tom is a very gracious person and willing to answer all our questions. Close to a three hour presentation!  Slides and some excerpts of the original and remastered music. 

Now I will try answer your questions about the Setchi and give you some information, as best as I can. 

I am offering an opportunity to home demo the new Setchi Grounding Blocks by Taiko Audio. They are so new we do not even have them up on our web site yet, lol. Seriously.
Though we have been selling them overseas for a month or two.

I have tried MANY grounding devises over the years and I must say these are exceptional for the price vs performance value.

At first I was highly skeptical of them even though my associates reassured me of their performance. As I said, I have tried many others over the years. But with the Setchi I was WRONG! 

I have a Setchi D1 on my SGM Music Server and a Setchi D2 on my T+A DAC 8 DSD. If I had a separate preamp I would put one on that too but right now (Preamp in my future) I use the analog Preamp in the T+A. 

Order of importance in placement of Setchi in a system. 

1) Server

2) Source (DAC, CD player)

3) Preamp

4) AMP/s

5) Power conditioner

6) ETC ( some costumers overseas connect a Setchi to their electric service panel)

In my system just one made a significant difference and was highly noticeable. But TWO just brought it home! 

The improvements were overall. Much better dynamics, tone, air, sound stage, harmonics and I could go on. I must say that I don't want to describe too much of what the very worthwhile improvements were. You really need to hear it for yourself. Caveat, each system could be slightly different as it is system dependent to a point.
So You really need to demo in your own system.

What are the Setchi? Well I will do my best to explain.

The case of the Setchi is made of Panzerholz aka Tank Wood. This was no accident. We chose this for several reasons. The least of which is not for the improvement in sound it brings. 

Inside there is a replaceable (9v - every two years) battery, more on this below. 
Also inside there is either copper or gold/silver depending on the model. More below. 

The Setchi comes in two types, a D for digital connection/equipment or an A for analog connection/equipment. 

Then there are two versions within the types.

Copper or a number 1 designation. A1 / D1. 

Gold/Silver or a number 2 designation. A2 / D2. 

Depending on what equipment the Setchi will be connected to dictates the connection you will need. All Setchi come with a high quality connector, ie RCA, USB etc. See bottom two photos at the AudioStream link. These were at the Munich Show. 
https://www.audiostream.com/content/sound-galleries-experience

But what does the Setchi do? That is a great question but for me not a easy answer as I am not an engineer. 

What I can tell you its not a regular ground-tweak but more of a ground-plane harmonics harmonizer. As in it counters / reduces / absorbs harmful harmonics being dumped on the ground-plane by almost everything drawing current from the network, not only your high-end equipment but every appliance in your house and even your neighborhood. It`s powered by, or rather harvest its power from absorbing ambient vibrations, the battery is only for biasing its dielectrics which increases its efficiency and keeps it from saturating (which is a weakness of other "ground" tweaks). This is not voodoo but real science.

The prices are as follows. Pricing is in Euros due to the fact that all orders are processed overseas. I place your order and it is processed and shipped from The Netherlands. 

A1 and D1 (copper)are Euros 200 (currently $240) plus shipping.

A2 and D2 (gold/silver) are Euros 300 (currently $360) plus shipping.

Now because the way the Setchi works it MUST be PLACED ON TOP of any EQUIPMENT it is connected to. It can be placed on its side vs placed flat (there is a slight difference in sound one vs the other). 

While the quality of the cable and its length is optimized for absolute performance, you can order a longer length cable with just a slight loss in performance. 

Once connected to your equipment it will take several hours before the Setchi begins to sound really good. After about a day it will reach about 80%. Then over three+ days  it will continue to improve and reach 100%.

If Setchi is removed, the equipment it was attached to will SLOWLY revert back to its previous state in performance. So A / B ing is nearly impossible. 

OK, I think I covered it all. Please feel free to ask me any questions. 

Cheers, Al.

Alfonse Mirabella
Ambassador for Sound Galleries and Taiko Audio

Sound Test USA
al.mirabella@soundtest.info


@ctsooner 
Peter, IIRC the only audiophile cat8 cable is made by Wiredworld. 
It is supposed be special. It comes in three levels I believe. 
Though not sure if you would need it with the optical isolation. Also many of us are using Ethernet isolators and find they work as good or better as the optical. Just some food for thought. There is a thread on Computer Audiophile about it. 
Al, thanks.  Yes you told me about the isolators.  I just remember reading on CA in a thread that the optical isolation is better, but I'm more than willing to try the isolators as they only cost about 65 or so if I recall.  

Yes, I thought WW sold the cat 8.  My dealer in NJ, Audio Connections sells those, so I'll ask him to get me one and I'll check it out.  At this point I may as well.  Do you have a link to the CA thread Al?  That would help all of us as I know many are lurking on this thread still (they send me emails etc.., lol).  

I'd love to speak with you off line about the grounding devices as I too have interest in checking them out.  Looking forward.  Thanks.

Thanks Pete