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Vibration Issues / Turntable Decisions

Currently have a Thorens TB-150 which is upgraded to about the fullest extent (Cardas Wiring, New Walnut Plinth, MusicHall Cruise Control 2.0, Rega RB220 Arm, Ortofon 2M Bronze). With that being said, my table is plagued with skips if you all but tip-toe in the room. One of those things that just gets on my nerves. So I have been looking around for a mass-loaded TT.

Is changing to a ClearAudio Performance or MusicHall 9.3 really going to make a different in the skipping?
Any feedback on the Goldring Eroica LX Cart?
Are there any tables to be looking at?

Thanks!

-Ron
hifiron
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stringreen
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Don't use springs...that would negate the suspension system of the Thorens.   Fixing the floor from below might be helpful..but a huge pain to do properly.  Fix the cabinet to the wall....tight.  Use one turnbuckle into the wall, or stick a piece of appropriate size wood between the wall and the cabinet.  Cardas blocks under the turntable will help the sound, but fix the footfalls first.
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The trouble with turntable springs is their resonant frequency isn’t low enough to do any good in certain situations. Such as this one. 🙄 My advice - remove the springs and get yourself some real springs.
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geoffkait
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Roxy, obviously whatever stand or rack the guy has isn’t working. Of course I’m not saying all racks and stands are terrible, just most of them. Follow?
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slaw
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hifiron,

Fixing your console to your wall does what, exactly? Your wall is connected to your floor, right? This is the entire issue. ( This would be a (minor) improvement that would be a cause of considerable amount of time/unnecessary work and destruction to your wall).

I’d be glad to discuss with you further on a PM if you’d like. I have similar issues and have found ways to achieve excellent results.

Good luck.
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slaw
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"Don’t use springs, that would negate the suspension system of the Thorens."

I would just add this...

If the Thoren’s suspension was working properly, you’d have little to no problem now? Why would another layer of (effective) isolation be a bad thing? Would the author of the above quote say the same thing if you had a Minus K under your TT now?

To borrow a often read quote from geoffkait... "Hell-ooo!"
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