My new Idler - but is it an idler ?


Some time after my rediscovery of vinyl, I started toying with the idea of building a turntable. At the time I owned an idler (Dual 1219) and a DD (Technics SL-QL1). For me, the Dual was a small revelation (although there was The Rumble) and started me on an If... path.

Put it simply, what about designing an idler with modern materials, technologies and principles ?

Almost 3 years later - and 2 prototypes - I think I might be getting somewhere. I leave some picts and details for your "viewing pleasure".


  • Plint made from steel reinforced concrete containing all locating points
  • Subframe from Aluminium / Acrylate sandwich
  • Inverted bearing design with twin ceramic spheres as the thrust surfaces
  • Aluminium Platter with an inner acrilic ring and underside rubber matting for damping control
  • Epyciclic drive - the motor pulley directly drives the inner rim of the platter, so no real idler drive…
  • BLDC motor with electronic control and speed switching
  • Armboard made from an aluminium / corian sandwich


Externally, I used black Alcantara for finishing (no nasty fingerprints), with the sideboards made blackened mahogany. Later, (after loosing 2 stylus to an excited child…) I added a darkened acrylic cover with a tilt/slide opening.


Overall, the main drivers for the design have been speed stability, low background noise and resonance control - hence the several “sandwiches”. Speed stability is where I think some progress is still needed, but I have an upgrade coming along.

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Cool project and the table looks much more "human" in scale then anticipated after reading steel reinforced concrete. Also never heard of Alcantra before did a bit of reading on it sounds like cool stuff. Congrats and I hope it sounds as you intended. Not a TT or idler expert by any means so no comments as to the idlerness of your design.
Alcantara is a synthetic replacement for suede. It's tough wearing and UV-proof. It's commonly used for car interiors (higher-endish) and also household upholstery...
Kudos to you for the effort, but one could say that there ARE commercially made "modern" idler drive turntables, if you count all those add-on rim-drive systems.  I guess TT Weights and Trans-fi made or make "from scratch" rim drives, as well.  Granted, rim-drive is not quite like classic idler-drive.
You're right, but I meant "integrated" drive systems, not add-ons.

I didn't know the Trans-fi and it's interesting. But I wonder if the drive ratio from motor to platter (very small pulley) very akin to a belt-drive, doesn't make its playing signature closer to a belt-drive, than an idler.