Low output gain amplifier for ZU 101db Efficient speakers


I am thrilled with my new Rogue RP-5 preamp. However, like I mentioned before, the tube Hiss is really loud (I can hear back of room). It’s a smooth, non noisy hiss. I chatted with Rogue and they are sending replacement tubes but guess it’s due to my Nuforce STA200 amp with output gain of 34db. I was told that was quite high for having such efficient speakers. Rogue told me they test their equipment on high efficiency Klipsch speakers and the RP5 is quiet.

Anyway, I have attenuators coming today to help until I now find a power amp. I would love to have an Atma-Spere amp, however, they are too pricey for my budget (even used). Maybe a used Firstwatt f3 or these Quicksilver monoblock amps that are made for high efficient speakers http://quicksilveraudio.com/products/horn-mono/

The lower priced Decware amps look nice, plus they have gain settings.

For those who own high efficiency speakers with a tube pre, any other options? I really hate to switch out the RP-5 because it has all the functions available on the remote and it sounds great.


aberyclark
aberyclark
 Low output gain amplifier for ZU 101db Efficient speakers

With speakers that are over 98dB there's really no advantage in having a preamp with gain, as you've found it's a diadvatage, you'll find many now are starting to go for passive preamps as per this Nelson Pass quote:

We’ve got lots of gain in our electronics. More gain than some of us need or want. At least 10 db more.

Think of it this way: If you are running your volume control down around 9 o’clock, you are actually throwing away signal level so that a subsequent gain stage can make it back up.

Routinely DIYers opt to make themselves a “passive preamp” - just an input selector and a volume control.

What could be better? Hardly any noise or distortion added by these simple passive parts. No feedback, no worrying about what type of capacitors – just musical perfection.

And yet there are guys out there who don’t care for the result. “It sucks the life out of the music”, is a commonly heard refrain (really - I’m being serious here!). Maybe they are reacting psychologically to the need to turn the volume control up compared to an active preamp.


You could always trial a Schiit Freya preamp it has virtually no gain (unity gain) itself, in all of it’s modes tube, solid state, or passive output, got remote 3 inputs and balanced or rca, and sounds from reports very very good.

Cheers George
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Yes, the First watts have got my attention. Plus, they supply a great low end wheras the pre can add smoothness to highs and mids. The RP-5 did sound great ontop of all the freaking hiss. I took an iphone video of me muting and unmuting the preamp. Ill post it later
You can hear the hiss on the video at link below. The hiss is much louder in person. The phone mic is quite sensative to overall environment. Thus, the overall video sounds a bit hissy. You’ll want to listen closely in a quiet area

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wgdbtqzhqf3nn1n/File%20Oct%2013%2C%204%2044%2055%20PM.mov?dl=0
Not sure whether these would work for you, but there are a pair of Sophia Electric 300b monoblocks for sale on Audiogon. Good price.