LP's... Do they sound better now than 30 yrs ago?


Thinking about getting back into LP's. Do they sound better than they did 30 yrs ago? I remember , no matter how well you cleaned them and how well you treated them they always( after 1 or 2 plays) sounded like crap! Pops and clicks. Scratched easy. Are they better made? Thicker? I don't want clicking and popping over my system!                Thanks for your input!



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I think, first of all, that the availability of affordable high quality equipment is better today than it was 30 years ago.  I also think that the premium quality vinyl today is better than the premium quality vinyl of yesteryear.  What isn't great is the confusion around what sources are being used for vinyl releases now.  30+ years ago we knew that digital was not a part of the recording process (for the most part), but now when I often buy vinyl reissues of a records that I know were recorded digitally 20 years ago.  Many of them sound far better than their digital release counterparts, so I have to believe that vinyl is superior to CD, but I don't know if this is due to modern technology or a variety of other factors.  All I know is that I buy a lot of new release vinyl these days and most of it sounds really good.  When I play an original from the 70's it sounds nowhere near as good as its reissue (in many cases).  A little research before you buy new vinyl goes a long way towards finding separating the wheat from the chaff.    
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When I play an original from the 70’s it sounds nowhere near as good as its reissue (in many cases).

My experience is totally different. Prefer the original 70s pressing if the reissue is not from the master tape, also depends on who does the remastering for the reissue and where it was pressed today. If we will exclude the very famous artists released on big labels (and reissued by big labels) we will find that some of the obscure artrists nowadays reissued by the small companies that are not technically advanced and noboby really cares about the sound quality that much, the source for reissue of obscure bands is ofter an old vinyl digitalized with average cartridge, then compressed digitally and pressed again on the vinyl in 1000 copies. Same with the 7inch reissues on 45rpm vinyl, original pressings always better. Only big labels can taking care of the top quality reissue if they are planning to sell them in many thousand copies. But hey, what about those unknown releases with great music?

Like you RSA, I dismissed LPs decades ago because of pops, hiss, and not being able to use in my car.

I cant speak to the pressings but others have.

I got the LP bug this year and bought a new turn table. I was pleasantly surprised when I played my LPs I had stored for 30 years. Very clean pleasant sound on the better kept less used records. Still pops on the abused ones.

As Soundermn said, my equipment is better now than it was then. So I think that made a difference.

I am not replacing my digital library with LPs but, it has reopened an avenue I had closed for three decades. I can now search for those gem LPs and get satisfaction when I find them.

The first OPEC oil crisis started in October, 1973, four years *after* RCA introduced Dynaflex records (about 70g IIRC) in 1969. So Dynaflex was *not* a response to rising oil prices. It probably was, in part, for saving money. I've found that Dynaflex records sound like any standard 140g record if you use a record grip or weight with it.

In 1979, OPEC introduced yet another price-gouging, but by then the US had developed new trade relations with oil-producing countries in South America, and the US made it through the '80s with readily available, reasonably-priced oil.
So a well produced LP today was probably better than many 30 years ago... not so much if you go back 40 years.
If you do the math, you'll realize that 30 years ago was the 1980s; 40 years ago was the 1970s, the years of the gasoline shortages, high petroleum prices, and LPs pressed (sometimes) by recycled vinyl, some (allegedly) with previous record labels mixed in.

Some of the bad reputation *may* be attributable to the noisy and vibration/resonance prone turntables of the '70s. I worked in an audio store in the '70s and we used a dbx expander to goose the dynamics. We always thought the records themselves had been compressed. My opinion now, however, is that the turntables robbed the recordings of their dynamics and phono preamps of the time generally didn't bring out the records' dynamic potential. My all-tube PTP handwired phono stage extracts excellent dynamics from LPs from pretty much any decade including the '70s, and the ones from the '80s will kick you around the room.

As for LPs pressed throughout the '80s (that's 27 to 37 years ago), among the many I own, I've found them to be predominantly excellent. These include the Michael Jackson albums on Epic, albums by Men At Work, Van Halen, Pink Floyd's "The Wall" (released Nov. 1979), Lyle Lovett and His Large Band, Steve Winwood's "Back in the High Life" (1986), The Police, The Cars, David Bowie "Let's Dance," The Nylons' "Seamless" and "One Size Fits All," and many others. I have original pressings of every one of the albums mentioned, and many more from the 1980s. Every one of them could be an audio quality demo record. The dynamics and transparency of many of these are amazing.

I picked up just about every one of these albums at thrift shops or used record store bargain bins for 99 cents each.

One other factor in favor of used 1980s pressings may be that by that time more people were playing records on belt drive and direct drive single play record players with light tracking tonearms. In the '60s most were being played on console stereos with heavy tracking record changer tonearms that also munged the inner grooves. So between the two eras, there's probably a better chance of less wear and damage on '80s-era LPs.
My Lp's sound a whole lot better.  30 years ago I was poor and had a low end, mid-fi system.  These days my system is a little more refined LOL