Sweet Vinyl Sugarcube - I Want It!!!


At the NY Audio Show this past weekend, I got to see and hear the demo of the Sweet Vinyl Sugarcube.  This PC-based stand alone unit is amazing.  Here is what it does:


1.  De-clicks vinyl - and does so completely transparently, and is user-adjustable (more or less filtering of clicks and pops). 

2.  Digitizes vinyl - MP3 through 24/192 resolution.

3.  Locates metadata for LPs being played/digitized, including cover art

4.  Inserts track divisions based on the metadata (wow!).

5.  Compensates for non-RIAA recordings

6.  Plug in apps will do even more, like reducing groove noise.

It inserts in a line-level loop or between your phono preamp and preamp.  It has digital (S/PDIF and USB) outputs as well as analog outputs.


Projected retail is $2500, and they plan a kickstarter campaign soon.


If you spend time digitizing vinyl, this thing is nothing short of a miracle.  I want one so badly I can taste it.


(I am not associated with Sweet Vinyl in any way.)

bondmanp
I really do apologize.  I don't mean to be mean.  Sometimes I cannot resist a little humor, and I have the mental image that we are all friends sitting around someone's living room, where a little ribbing now and then would be acceptable.  But I know not everyone agrees to that scenario.

You have to admit that, were it not for your frequent bumps, this topic would have sunk below the horizon months ago.  On the other hand, that is your perfect right, which is why I do apologize.  There are a lot of egghead purists here (like me) who would never even think of using a device like the Sugarcube in the vinyl pathway.  (Maybe that speaks to a shortcoming of mine.) But that does not justify my sarcasm.

To answer your question, when this thread pops to the top of the list, I read it, because I am thinking/hoping that you finally received your device and are able to report on its effects.  I am actually curious.
No problem, lewm. I have very thick skin (and most everything else, too). I share your mental image - just like when I attend our local audio club meetings, and everybody gets a good ribbing. FedEx says it is out for delivery today!!! Very tight schedule this week, and my amplifier is in need of repair, so my ability to put the SC-2 through its paces will be somewhat limited. I also need no decent wires to hook it up. I was too nervous about ever receiving it to actually buy ICs before I was sure I would actually receive it.
FIRST IMPRESSIONS - My SC-2 has arrived!  

I unpacked my SC-2 and placed it in my rack.  It is a nicely made piece of kit of light weight, but compact, and all metal construction except the knobs.  It includes the 7" calibration record, the brick power supply and generic ac power cord.  Also included is the USB stick for wifi connection.  There is no remote control, but there is an app for iPhone and Android.

While I do occassionally spin vinyl, my main interest is digitizing my vinyl for my server and portable use.  I first connected the input of the SC-2 from the output of my Kenwood Graphic/Parametric EQ (let the flames begin!), with the SC-2's output split via Y cables between my McIntosh C220 preamp (tape loop input) and my Marantz CDR-632 CD recorder.  For the time being, the SC-2's track-splitting function is not available, so I will continue to use the Marantz to digitize my LPs, but now without the clicks and pops.  

I fired it up with a particularly noisy 45 rpm single on my modded Thorens TD-166 MkII using an Ortofon OM-30 Super MM cartridge.  The thing works!  With the click filtering set to medium (5 out of 10), the clicks were simply not noticeable.  I checked this by selecting the front panel's Click Monitor button, which allows you to hear only what is being filtered out, and heard all the clicks, but, importantly, no music.  

With my amplifier out for repairs, the SC-2's headphone output was my main choice for listening.  I switched between my Grado SR-60s and Audio Technica ATH-M40x cans.  The SC-2 highlighted the significant differences between these two headphones, with the Grados sounding pleasantly euphonic next to the brutally honest Audio Technicas.  The headphone stage was clean, detailed and smooth, with an upper-mid and treble range that was delicious sounding and very inviting.

Next up was "Don't Give Up" from Peter Grabriel's LP "So".  This is a pretty clean copy, so the click filtering didn't have to work so hard.  But the sound was excellent, well extended on top and bottom, with a nice soundstage (for cheap headphones), and a very clean sound.  I do think that surface noise becomes a bit more obvious with the clicks and pops being suppressed.  Sweetvinyl has suggested that a surface noise filter may be offered as a paid software upgrade in the future.  

Next up will be installing the Android app on my phone, connecting to my home wifi network, calibration using the test record, and experimenting with the digitization function using a USB stick.

So far, I am quite pleased, although I really hope the track-splitting function gets rolled out soon. 

I will happily answer any questions.


Just trying to understand the signal path.  Is it from Mac C220 phono stage to Kenwood EQ to Sweetvinyl to headphone, in your temporary set-up?  When you have speakers, I gather it will go from Sweetvinyl back to C220 and etc.  So, right now you are only using the tick and pop removing function of the SV, correct?  Thanks.


lewm - Pretty much you have it correct. The Sugarcube only accepts analog inputs, so I use the tape loop output on the C220 to feed the equalizer. I have a choice of three headphone jacks - the C220, the Sugarcube, and the Marantz CD recorder. So far, I prefer the sound of the Sugarcube’s headphone stage over the other two.


When my amplifier is back, I will feed the tape loop input on the C220 from the Sugarcube, so listening to vinyl will be done through the C220’s tape loop.


Once the Sugarcube is fully functional for recording, including the track-splitting and meta-data functions, I will rearrange the outputs of the equalizer, via Y cables, to feed both the Marantz CD recorder and the Sugarcube, so that the Marantz will not be in the signal path of the Sugarcube inputs.


Separately, I successfully downloaded the Android app for the Sugarcube last night, connected the Sugarcube to my home wifi network, and calibrated the Sugarcube using the test record. It seems that the only function of the calibration is to set the input level on the Sugarcube for optimal recording levels. I also noticed that the Sugarcube received a software update, all on its own. I have not yet determine what was updated.