Opening a can of worms


Here is the can filled with opinions. It's been hashed and rehashed to infinity and beyond with no clear result. Since I am a seeker of truth I'll post my thoughts here for the yea and naysayers to debate over. Question is: Are expensive speaker or any other cable in a system worth the exorbitant cost over a reasonably priced cable loom? I thought I'd  experiment myself to find out. My comparison is between Transparent Ultra cable loom and Blue Jeans cable loom on a pure stereo system comprised of Proceed PAV,  Proceed PDSD,  Krell Kav 250, Musical Fidelity A3cd, Sony Ps4300 TT and B&W 803D2 speakers. All sources were used by this experiment using identical playback material. Cables had in excess of 200 hrs burn time and all were identical in lenght. The only variation were the connector manufacturers.
One change that occurred during this 4 week long endeavor was that I'm firmly seated on the sharpest picket on the fence.
My result is that I'm now a believer that there are audible differences in cables. I also believe that these differences are minute and one has to really listen carefully and for a long time to discern these differences.
Now to the crutch of the matter, $$$$$, As we all know Transparent Cables would reside in the upper tier of Audio Cable expense.  Blue Jeans Cable on the other hand falls into the lowest tier of expense (well maybe not lowest but low nontheless )
One would think then that the Transparent would be far superior to the BJs. Not really! Yes the highs were a little cleaner, mids a little tighter and lows a tad more pronounced but not by as much as one would expect. Soundstage was somewhat more open and airy and depth was somewhat more defined with the higher priced cable but again less than one would expect. 

Now for my personal opinion regarding the cable debate: expensive cable looms are slightly better than reasonable priced looms, if a dollar equals a penny to you then by all means opt for the higher priced loom, if a penny equals a penny don't be ashamed for opting for the best you can do. The differences are so minute that it's not worth going into debt over. BOTH looms sounded superb on my test system and I would be happy with either loom.

Now let the debate begin, just know I'm a fence sitter and not in one camp or the other
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dynaquest4 > Please try to pre-think your responses and attempt to be succinct and concise enough that others here will actually read what you have to say. 🐑 🚶🏻🏃🏻🚶🏻🚶🏻

blindjim >

@dynaquest4 > Wait! What? are we running out of server space?

. No one told me. Sorry. Should we chip in to add more? You start, everyone else will follow your lead.

Its hard to let go of the playground or your vision of it, ain’t it?

By your own admission you chose not to read my post. So you have nothing to base your objections to apart from its duration and unremarkable suppositions?

Hmmm. How cordial. I would have used imogees were I able.

I communicate. I don’t grunt. Cheer on. Backslap. Nudge. Or leave much to conjecture whenever I post. At least I try not to. Why? It saves me and others time for explanations after the fact.

Neither do I expect anyone to read what I write. Albeit, some may. If just one person finds my input helpful, then outstanding!!! ,

I also tend to enjoy adding when possible, or appropriate some humor along the way.

In your case, it seems to fall on self imposed deafened ears and or blinded eyes.

OK. I apologize. I was unaware you were the forum spokesperson. The consciousness of mankind. That any attempt to communicate MUST adhere to what makes sense to you, and in some unknown crieterium of exceptional brevity so you can ignore something quicker.

My bad.

OMG! You don’t even know me. Know nothing at all about me I would think. Yet you demonstrate an obvious bias based on some fantastic unsubstantiated, known only to you, possible heresay, characteristics people must follow to gain your blessings?

If you can not maintain a train of thought long enough, or tolerate sufficiently a disposition apart from your own, the world you live in will forever frustrate you. that’s too bad.

I don’t roll with the ‘plus 1s’, the ‘absoutely’ or the ‘yeah, right on’ crowd. That jazz is sheer fraternal good ol’ boy back slappin’ cliquish drama. It fosters no positive outcome to a conversation, debate, contention, agreement or argument. It merely separates the fold. Culls the heard derisively.

Mostly though it signifies a closed mind, or a groundlessly and likely erroneously prejudiced one. Again,that’s too bad.

If you are unable to agree or disagree with grace, and demonstrate some maturity and open mindedness, perhaps these forums are not for your temperament.

But, again, I sincerely apologize if my benign discourse aimed solely on the topic or response to another’s post, upsets you. or any others.

Keep holding onto the idea of ‘succinct brief ambiguity and watch as this culture and others devolve as many have in the last twenty years or so. And everyone wonders why there is so much anger. Acrimony. Grief and misgivings.

Communication. Its communication or its absence. No one wants to know where anyone else is really coming from any more. We just suspect, project, or claim we know but we don’t because we’ve lost the ability to communicate and tolerate. Understand And empathize.

If you’re gonna express your thoughts. Please…. Express them as well as you are able. Always.




taras22> brilliant and much much fun....

blindjim > @taras22…. thank you.
so… you’re the one who read my post, it seems now, you are the last of a dying breed!! Lol

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Sorry, I must digress to this thread’s orig topic….

I like the idea of mixing and matching cables in the loom to fit better the component they are attached to, or to improve upon the synergy of the whole system.

Sometimes with wires, it is nothing more than a hunch or WAG as to how they get into the mix.

As for same same across the board, I’ve yet to find one brand and model of cable which has everything and does everything exceptionally well.

So it always ends up being some sort of conglomeration of various brands and models of wires and cords..

well, so far anyhow.

As for deletions or removals of post, maybe its just filters. Certain words. Phrases. Maybe too Admin is tired of some folks forgetting free speech doesn’t mean you can say anything at all and is attempting to remind people about that side of the coin.

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@kosst_amojan,

I have asked, what is your end game? If you don’t believe that a cable makes audible difference then why do you keep showing up on these cable threads with same futile arguments?

Just look back at every cable thread you tread on...what have you gained by dissing folks that are pro aftermarket cables or other tweaks. 
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