Octave v70se OR v80se


Hello Everyone!
I recently bought the amazing Dynaudio Contour 20 speakers and am about to purchase the Octave int amp. I have listened to the v70se but have also heard great things about the v80se model (have not heard v80se in person). So far this is the best integrated amp I have heard in this price range!

My question is should I get the v70se WITH a black box and call it a day OR just get the v80se? The price difference between v70se and v80se is pretty significant.

I have a 20x25 foot room and I listen to all kinds of music. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
danimaz
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danimaz, are you sure about V70SE, this looks too low ?
$9500 for V80SE is about the same as VAC Sigma integrated.
Hey! I'm an octave user as well but only the HP500se pre, although i've i have heard quite a few octave amps on various setups.
I think XTi16 has summed it up very well.
They first question you have to ask yourself here is are you happy with the V70se with 6550 tubes in your set up? do feel the need for more power or a different tonal signature?
If not then get it with a SBB straight away, but it you feel that it's not floating your boat then the choice of V80se is more obvious,which in my opinion is a better amp. The SBB can always be purchased latter.
Hope it helps.
All the best
Cheers
Dan those prices may be euro's. Right before I traded in my V110 Octave dropped its pricing about 1000 to reflect the drop in the euro. So add approx 1.18% for USD
I did find this with Google but I don't see a datehttp://www.music2.nl/octave-audio-tube-amps/pricelist-octave/