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Sub Integration

Here's my system...
NAD C375BEE integrated amp
PSB Imagine B speakers
2 Klipsch 10" powered subs
Outlaw ICBM Bass Management
For 2 channel music only (not HT)
My listening room is 15' X 20' with plaster walls and carpeting. I have experimented with moving the subs at different locations and sub output volume .The Outlaw crossover is set at 80 Hz to handle lows below the PSB capability (52 Hz). While the mains still sound good the bass from the subs still sounds what many would say is "boomy". I do not have an SPL or any room correction equipment.
Any suggestions as to what I may try next?

jrpnde
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tomic601
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Audiotools good
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use Ray Brown Soular Energy as Bruce suggests to set bass output level

attenuate the port do not plug 
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rwbadley
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Lots of good advice, mainly on crossover points which are important. One of the things I found huge was getting the phase right. Without it there is a jumbled mess no matter what you do.

Probably the easiest way to do it is by ear. Hopefully you have a 0-180 degree phase adjust on the sub

Play music with a good solid discernable thump thump from a kick drum is good.

Play with the phase knob on the sub for a bit until you can hear differences in timing. Then adjust the phase on the subwoofer until the mains and the sub 'kick' together. Off phase sounds blurry or softer. 'In phase' should focus the timing to solidify the kicks. Timing should be pretty easy to get close. I went around and around with   various other methods and found if it sounds right it is right.

Cheers

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jrpnde OP
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yogiboy suggests that sealed and not ported subs are better for music and ported are better for for HT. My aim is for music. I have read opinions from others that this is true. Originally I had one sealed Klipsch sub. The second sub I added is also a 10" Klipsch sub but is front ported. If I plugged the port on the second sub would I have, in effect, two sealed subs? If so, what plugging material would I use? The front port is located in the front bottom and is a rectangular opening. The system is not played at extremely high volume.
Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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wtf
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@jrpnde .. like you, I have 2 ported subs in my 2-channel system and use an ICBM-1. The ICBM-1 is a great component and you should be able to tame the subs boominess with it. I agree with @chrisr and would start by setting your crossover to 60Hz and turn the "subwoofer level" all the way down. Play some music and adjust the level up by ear. Mine is always set between minimum and the center line. Try placing your subs next to your speakers as well. BTW do you utilize the ICBM-1 in stereo subs mode?
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