Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?


The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
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esmith904

I dug out some noise measurements for you guys I did on the noise floor of the output into 50kohm load.
It was on the absolute limit on my Tektronics test gear to measure down that low.

And with the Linear powersupply it was 50uV P/P (micro volts peak to peak ), this is around ten times lower that the best active preamps I’ve seen, which are sometimes in the mV (millivolts)

Then I did the same using a pure battery supply, and yes it did come down a touch from 50uV to 30uV, this could be the reason some of us hear something when using battery but can’t explain what?

But a difference of 20uV (micro volts) noise is practically nothing?? I can't point my finger at this and say this is what we're hearing though.

Cheers George
I had some time to kill so I decided to re-red this entire thread (I sure do miss Paul). I'm not on Audiogon much anymore, but have to say that the Lightspeed is still with me and getting its fair share of use. I've been looking to upgrade the PS so went looking for a Teradak and found this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TeraDak-U9-Linear-Power-Supply-DC-8-5V-1A-USB-5V-1A/302532038401?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

I assume it will work based on what I have seen in previous comments here. On the other hand, what's the best batter PS option these days?


Hi clio09 , that one you've linked to is not one I've seen before, as at just 8.5v it's close to the drop out voltage (7.5v) of the 5v regulated circuit inside the Lightspeed.
For $50 it's a good buy though, and should be fine.
The ones I used to link to, were 9v and I think you could adjust them to 12v inside, with a trimpot, maybe you can with this too.

Cheers George

Batteries??? Yes as I measured above they are 20uV quieter on test bench, but you’d have to be a "super bat" to hear that sort of difference.

But all including myself hear something different that we can’t put a finger on, but we all prefer it (maybe physiological).

And for the money, $20 for a 12v rechargeable Li-Ion one that lasts a good two weeks before a recharge is needed, well worth having.
Here is the ebay links.
Just make sure with the seller, that it has a 2.1mm plug, and that centre is positive.(I like the black ones, as they look better.)

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R5.TR6.TRC1.A0.H1.X12v+.TRS0&_nkw=12v+li-ion+rechargeable+battery+pack&_sacat=0

Cheers George