ARC Ref 5se inferior to LS28?


This is what a big dealer told me the other day. Dealer speak or right on the money? Would very much like to hear opinions of the many knowledgeable ARC users on Audiogon. Thanks

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@tomic601  I have a nearly new LS28 sitting in a box I can sell you for the comparison, lol.

I will say, it is 90% of the REF6 that replaced it, in my system (Yggy>REF6>ML CLX and BF210).  Very much cut from the same cloth.  Just lacks some delicacy and clarity as compared to the REF6.  I was actually disappointing that the improvement with the REF6 wasn't greater, particularly given the substantial increase in price.  I guess that is the definition of diminishing returns!!!
“I will say, it is 90% of the REF6 that replaced it in my system”
+1, @docknow. 

I purchased LS28 after auditioning both at my dealer. And I didn’t think the subtle improvements I heard with Ref6 were worth twice the price. Having said that, if Ref6 was at $10K price point, I would have grabbed Ref6 in a heartbeat. 

I am very happy with my current setup of DAC9 > LS28 > VT80. 


In my experience the REF's are always better than the LS's.  I think this tactic is a gateway to get you out of your old REF, into the current LS and then ultimately to the new REF.

The tubed power supply is significant.