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Audio Technica AT ML-180 Cartridge Advice

Just acquired an Audio Technica AT ML-180 cartridge with broken cantilever and was looking for advice on where to get a new cantilever rebuild and what material to choose from. My preference is a new Boron cantilever but was not sure who, apart from Soundsmith, offers this service.

Also would like to know which is the best tonearm to use for this cartridge once it's fixed. It can either go on my Audiomods Series 5 (eff. mass approx. 11g) or the arm on my Yamaha GT 2000 which has an effective mass of approx. 20g.

Thanks in advance.
ateal
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nandric
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Ateal, What do you mean with VdH ''boron tube'' and ''suspension

upgrade'' for $ 750? Assuming some hazy ''upgrade'' without precise

knowledge what you are talking about is curious ''advice''.  The

suspension by AT styli consist of the ''rubber ring'' in front of the

stylus holder + tension wire inside the tube behind the cantilever.

The whole stylus/cantilever construction is fastened with the small

screw inside the stylus holder. No retipper whatever can do anything

to ''improve'' suspension by AT styli. A boron tube can eventual be

glued on the restant of the old cantilever but ''above'' what can

such boron tube be glued if the whole cantilever is broken of?

Guessing like Raul and chakster do is not an responsible way to

give advices.  There is no shame involved by confession to don't

know. For Raul and chakster obviously a big problem. Do you

want to join them in this attitude?

totem395
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chakster
It was top of the line Victor tonearm for their TT-101
Not to be overly nit-picky but the UA-7045 arm was supplied on the 
N.A. JVC QL-10 and in Japan the TT-101 drive would be found used with 
the longer UA-7082.

Now back to the original topic.
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chakster
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@totem395  well, it's the same arm, just a bit longer, and both units were available separately, so 7045 or 7082 doesn't really matter - they are both top models. ok  
ateal OP
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@nandric,  I had a long conversation with the VdH representative here in the US a few weeks ago and he explained that Mr VdH performs all the rebuilds himself and that he bought the last remaining supply of Boron tube.

Whilst he did not go into details on the specific step by step approach of how he performs the rebuild, he did explain that a new boron tube cantilever, VdH natural diamond and new suspension would cost me $750 and assured me that Mr VdH does this work himself in his retirement.  

I was only passing on this information from a reputable agent of VdH it is not my assumption or opinion.

Also I am pretty certain that if VdH can build "The Colibri" they can perform a rebuild of an ML180 stylus.
 
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rauliruegas
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Dear @ateal: Thank's. Stupid people always exist since the human been exists.

Northwest as VdH are cartridge builders with all the know how and skills to rebuild cartridges, obviously that can't put in exactly the same condition the 180 as an original one.

The Lyra designer here and in other threads already left very clear how cartridge manufacturers works and its advantages against re-tippers.

Now, the more important issue is that you are really happy with your 180/150. Just stay that way till you find out a better cartridge for your system and music/sound priorities.

Btw, if can be true that a tube cantilever can has lower wiegth than same material in rod way exist no true facts that can tell us that hollow cantilevers always are better than its rod ones. Both have its own kind of resonances and we have to think that that hollow/tube or rod characteristics per sé does not defines the overall cartridge quality level performance. Tha's why we have very good performers with hollow material cantilevers and very good performers with rod material cantilevers.

That's the same as when in other thread we analyzed the best material for cantilevers and with scientific facts was not the berylium ( as many people think. ) the best one for that specific work but diamond followed by boron.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
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