@Runnin since you insulted me again I’ll need to rebuke.
Small minded? When it comes to audio, no. My comment that Rainmakers suck compared to Double Impacts was not made out of anger, it comes from experience and ownership of both products. I can probably setup a demo in your area to compare them so you can hear for yourself. I know a guy in Surrey that just got DI’s. On the other side of the coin if someone has a $1200 budget for a little bookshelf speaker Rainmakers are one of my first recommendations along with Focal Aria and Revel Concerta 2. My seconday speakers right now are ELAC UF5 Uni-Fi’s so no snobbery here. They certainly suck compared to DI’s and Enzo XL’s. Being open minded means speaking negatively of things you may like, or love to effectively share information with people that have different views. It’s just an opinion, try and take it with a grain of salt.
It would also be nice to have an actual debate instead of reading your endless childish pokes and knee-jerk reactions after your comments get shut down by other members. Try sticking to facts and following through.
Speaking of getting shut down...It seems like every one of your posts contains something wrong. MDF is used in many pricey speaker designs. For example the Focal Gamma Structure utilized in Sopra and Utopia models uses MDF. Please see the quote from Focal below.
"At Focal, we use MDF (medium-density fibreboard) to achieve this. It may seem a "low-tech" solution compared to some cabinet materials employed today but MDF has inherent advantages that we believe make it the optimum material from which to construct a loudspeaker.
First, it is dense enough and stiff enough – when used in a thick, heavy front baffle – to resist the magnet reaction force from the drive units. As the driver diaphragm is forced forwards by the voice coil, an equal force acts in the opposite direction on the drive unit chassis. This is one of the major inputs of vibrational energy to the cabinet and it must be resisted. This requires not just a thick baffle but also meticulously placed internal bracing. Too stiff a cabinet, though, can be as bad as one which is not stiff enough because it pushes structural resonances up in frequency to a part of the spectrum where the ear is more sensitive.
Second, MDF has something resembling a sandwich structure, in which the faces on each side of the board are denser than its core. As well as contributing to stiffness, this endows MDF with good internal damping to help suppress vibrations when they occur."
I can provide other manufacturers if you need more validation but quoting one of the best speaker makers should get the point across.
When reading Grannyrings previous posts it becomes obvious to me that he knows more than I do about speaker internals. His actions inspired me to try upgrading an already great sounding speaker which resulted in the best product I’ve owned at half the cost of my last speakers (Martin Logan ESL 15A.) I too have opened up expensive speakers just to find cheap parts inside. I hate to state the obvious but only statement level products are built with cost-no-object budgets.
Going over Hfaddicts other posts shows me he is a respectful and open minded guy that genuinely appreciates the exchange of ideas. The only negative post I could find is pointed at you in a respectful manner, so he must be the problem right?
Small minded? When it comes to audio, no. My comment that Rainmakers suck compared to Double Impacts was not made out of anger, it comes from experience and ownership of both products. I can probably setup a demo in your area to compare them so you can hear for yourself. I know a guy in Surrey that just got DI’s. On the other side of the coin if someone has a $1200 budget for a little bookshelf speaker Rainmakers are one of my first recommendations along with Focal Aria and Revel Concerta 2. My seconday speakers right now are ELAC UF5 Uni-Fi’s so no snobbery here. They certainly suck compared to DI’s and Enzo XL’s. Being open minded means speaking negatively of things you may like, or love to effectively share information with people that have different views. It’s just an opinion, try and take it with a grain of salt.
It would also be nice to have an actual debate instead of reading your endless childish pokes and knee-jerk reactions after your comments get shut down by other members. Try sticking to facts and following through.
Speaking of getting shut down...It seems like every one of your posts contains something wrong. MDF is used in many pricey speaker designs. For example the Focal Gamma Structure utilized in Sopra and Utopia models uses MDF. Please see the quote from Focal below.
"At Focal, we use MDF (medium-density fibreboard) to achieve this. It may seem a "low-tech" solution compared to some cabinet materials employed today but MDF has inherent advantages that we believe make it the optimum material from which to construct a loudspeaker.
First, it is dense enough and stiff enough – when used in a thick, heavy front baffle – to resist the magnet reaction force from the drive units. As the driver diaphragm is forced forwards by the voice coil, an equal force acts in the opposite direction on the drive unit chassis. This is one of the major inputs of vibrational energy to the cabinet and it must be resisted. This requires not just a thick baffle but also meticulously placed internal bracing. Too stiff a cabinet, though, can be as bad as one which is not stiff enough because it pushes structural resonances up in frequency to a part of the spectrum where the ear is more sensitive.
Second, MDF has something resembling a sandwich structure, in which the faces on each side of the board are denser than its core. As well as contributing to stiffness, this endows MDF with good internal damping to help suppress vibrations when they occur."
I can provide other manufacturers if you need more validation but quoting one of the best speaker makers should get the point across.
When reading Grannyrings previous posts it becomes obvious to me that he knows more than I do about speaker internals. His actions inspired me to try upgrading an already great sounding speaker which resulted in the best product I’ve owned at half the cost of my last speakers (Martin Logan ESL 15A.) I too have opened up expensive speakers just to find cheap parts inside. I hate to state the obvious but only statement level products are built with cost-no-object budgets.
Going over Hfaddicts other posts shows me he is a respectful and open minded guy that genuinely appreciates the exchange of ideas. The only negative post I could find is pointed at you in a respectful manner, so he must be the problem right?
