Musician vs. audiophile


We need direction here. My wife, a musician and says my Sophia 3s, powered by BAT 3VK IX tube pre amp and 250w solid state amp sounds flat compared to a freaking Best Buy box store McIntosh/Martin Logan setup...  I can't honestly disagree, specifically when our rig is at low volume.  It lacks color and punch, even with 2ea. JL 12" subs... Help me with your recommendation, please!!!      
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I suspect that an impedance compatibility issue is contributing to the problem. Your BAT VK-3iX (I assume that is what you meant) has output impedances for its XLR and RCA outputs that are very high and that also vary widely across the frequency range, at least if your unit does not have the optional Six-Pak upgrade. From Stereophile’s measurements:

The VK-3iX’s output impedance was also high, and this might well have an effect on sound quality, depending on the input impedance of the partnering preamplifier [I assume he meant "amplifier"]. The unbalanced source impedance varied from 7k ohms at 20Hz to 1460 ohms at 1kHz and 2650 ohms at 20kHz, while the balanced figures ranged from a very high 14k ohms at 20Hz to 1850 ohms in the midband and above.
You didn’t say what amplifier you are using, but those numbers definitely indicate that sonic issues **will** arise with many and perhaps even the majority of solid state amps.

Also, I suspect that like most JL subs your subs probably provide only line-level inputs, and you are either driving the power amp from the preamp’s XLR outputs and the sub from the preamp’s RCA outputs, or vice versa. Many and perhaps most preamps providing XLR and RCA outputs do not drive the two pairs of outputs from separate output stages, and the signal provided to the RCA connector for each channel is the same signal that is provided to one of the two signal pins on the corresponding XLR connector. If that is the case with the VK-3iX the input impedance of the subs and the capacitance of the cables to the subs (especially if those cables are relatively long) can both have audibly significant effects on the signals received by the main power amp, that are reproduced by the main speakers. So if you already haven’t done so assessing the sonics provided by the Sophia with the sub cables disconnected from the preamp may provide useful insight into the issue.

Good luck. Regards,
-- Al


The McIntosh amplifiers, particularly the ones with Autoformers, pair very well with Martin Logan ESLs, according to owner feedbacks and my own experience. They are hardly considered "box store" quality. No experience with your other components.
To add to my previous post, many McIntosh solid state amplifiers have balanced and unbalanced input impedances in the vicinity of 20K. Driving impedances in that vicinity will almost certainly be a problem for your preamp, if it does not have the Six-Pak upgrade installed.

Regards,
-- Al

I am not familiar with the BAT amplifier.

I have had a pair of Sopra No2's and McIntosh MC452 power amp, since the Sopra's were first available and am so "smitten" I'm not looking to change.

One thing I found about my Sopra's was that it took at least 200 or so hours of break in time, for them to open up some.  But at around six months or so, they really seemed to "relax" and sound less "confined".

These speakers throw a "huge" amount of sound, yet I've found they are
very adept at the "performer in the room" sound stage.
To add to my previous post, i'm very familiar with Wilson speakers -- they're the very reason of spending a fortune and receiving a lady-bug size performance. 
overpriced and sound very poor in general especially Alexandria. in fact the higher priced Wilson sound worse than cheapest. First off they do not image and keep sound within the box -- all of'em with any amplifier paired. You can only dream about tonal balance... Obviously major brick-mortar store such as Best Buy would not target their customers with the product they wouldn't understand they paid money for.
BAT amp is great.