marqmike, as a retired teacher I ain’t rich .You described the IC-3se better than I can and you are spot on .
I first bought 2 with DHL as there is a price difference.
AudioArt had told me the Shadows were better though and as he is as honest as it gets, few weeks later sprung for a pr with the Shadows.
DHL prima , Shadows off the chart !
Month later I sprung for a 3 meter Shadow which is placement necessary in my small condo and I know the most important IC is between the pre and amp . System is better than I ever thought possible in my small condo .