why doesn't everyone own a pair of spica's???


i'm looking at new moniters and everywhere i turn there are raves afer raves for the spica's. the tc-60's coupled with a good sub apparently can compete with almost anything playing anything on the market today. please give insight. i was looking at 500 to 1000 used moniters comparable or better to these legends.
uncertainsmile
Hi - I have owned 3 pairs of Spicas and still have a pair of TC-50's sitting in a closet at the moment - but if I ever put a system in a smaller room that's what I'd use.

They are basically Midrange Monsters. The midrange and imaging, are IMHO as good as it gets at any price. They have a certain magic there which few others approach. The highs are good but not great, but the bottom end leaves much to be desired. Their main claim to fame in the 80's was true audiophile midrange at under $600, which was revolutionary then. I have not yet found a good, seamless match in a subwoofer. What I would prefer is 2 small subs used as stands with the Spicas above. If you do use a sub, run the Spicas full range anyway - The lows roll off quite sharply on their own, so no need to degrade the signal by running it through the sub's passive crossover.

Back in the good ol days, people would "stack" two pairs and get much better bass response out of them, due to bass "coupling". I once hung them upside down in a kitchen, nestled in the corner where the ceiling meets the wall and they sounded great.

Especially because they had no inline fuses (to keep the signal pure), the tweeters were vulnerable, esp. the TC-50's Audax tweet, and being the nut that I was I always kept a few extra voice coils on hand. The TC-60's tweeters are more robust than the 50's but none of the Spica tweeters are in production anymore - so you're stuck if you blow em. I still have 2 tweeter coils and 2 unused whole woofers as back-up - but when those go, my Spicas will be worthless, at least to me. The major reason for the Spica coherence and imaging (other than optimized crossover design) was that they very carefully measured and matched each unique pair of drivers and crossovers at the factory. I bought my first pair used and couldn't get them to sound "right" at home. After thinking I was crazy for about 6 weeks, I finally called Spica for advice and they ascertained by checking the serial numbers against their testing records that what I had was not a factory matched pair. I spoke to the dealer and it turned out they had bought two pairs at an auction - and mixed them up. So the difference is very audible. (talk about service - even though I had bought them used, Jon Bau had me send them to New Mexico and he replaced ALL 4 drivers and shipped them back to me FOR FREE!)

So as you can see, replacing the tweeters with a different model, or a pair that is not as carefully chosen and matched to the crossover as Spica did, will negate everything the Spica is about.

All that being said - The TC-60 bass is better than the 50's, and the tweeter more robust - so if you place them near the corners of a smaller room, find a good matching sub, and don't overdo the volume or have an underpowered amp causing clipping you should be very happy for many years.

On the other hand, if you can go with a larger speaker at the same price levels, I highly recommend Dahlquist DQ-20's. No need for a sub, spectacular imaging, and incredibly sweet midrange. They're like giant Spicas, and they can be had in mint condition for $600 or less - a ridiculous bargain.


I used to own spica angelus for 6 years. I sold them a few months ago and replaced them with Green Mountain Audio Europas (999 new).

The Europas do everything the spicas did and then some. They image equally well left to right, but with better depth of image. The micro and macrodynamics of the Europas is superior to the Angelus, and the high frequencies are much clearer on the Europas. I hear details on my LPs and CDs with the Europas that I've never heard before with the Spicas.

The angelus are fabulous speakers, no doubt, but there are now better speakers available in the sub-1000 price range.

I'd buy TC-60s, or Angelus speakers if someone was selling them for under $400, as IMHO this is all they're worth. As soon as prices go over $500 start looking for a used pair of Europas. I sold my angelus for $350 as they were a little untidy cosmetically. They're just not worth what some are charging for them.

I had Angelus speakers, they were limited in terms of low-end but imaged beautifully. I suspect that Spica's do well in a smaller room and at low volume. When driven hard the woofers bottomed out and subsequently "blew up". Nope, the Classe amplifier didn't clip, the woofers just couldn't handle the source material at a relatively high volume. I replaced the woofers and sold 'em, they just aren't suited for rock music at high spls.
"the tc-60's coupled with a good sub apparently can compete with almost anything playing anything on the market today"....

Unfortunately that is quite a bit if an overstatement!

Spica was at the leading edge in affordable high end audio 20 years ago, but there has been quite a few advances in driver materials, measurement techniques and overall understanding of crossover design since that time.

Spicas are very coherent, with a very natural sounding midrange as compared to many other offerings near their price point. BUT.... as far as "cost no object speaker comparatives, there are a PLETHORA of high end speakers (read more expensive)that will convy much better inner detail, have faster transients with more high frequency extension not to mention better dynamics and lower distortion too! (just to name a "few" sonic improvments over the Spicas ...read; "cost no object" can potentially buy much better sounding drivers and crossover parts!).

FYI: Here is a "short list" of monitor speakers I have experienced that I am very confident will eclipse the Spicas in virtually every sonic parameter:

- Ridge street Audio Sasson Ltd
- Merlin TSM MM
- Totem Rainmaker
- GR Research Dilucio
- Cliffhanger Bulldog

I'm sure that there are dozens more, but the above list I cited I know very well. I should also note that I owned both the TC-50's and the Angelus at one time, i.e. many years ago.