Thiel 2.3 vs 2.4

2.3 are terrible loudspeakers, pathetic in everyway except for the reputation of the company that made them....and the looks I guess.

The 2.4 is more inline with the Thiel reputation in performance and for me refreshingly good. Other than maybe the 7.2 which is still mediocre at best for the money, the 2.4 is the only Thiel since the 3.6 that I could look a client in the eye and know I would be sending him/her home with a good speaker with no real caveats to that statement.

A harsh assessment I know, but its your money.

Cinematic_Systems,

Thiel 2.3s are "terrible" and "pathetic"??? You seem very much out of touch with the rest of the audio world where this speaker has gotten rave reviews. No speaker is a perfect fit for every listener but to label it so makes one suspect you ability to hear. The 2.4 is nearly the same speaker as the 2.3 and you think it is much better? Bet you hear cable sound as well. But with a handle like "cinematic_systems" I would guess that accurate audio is not really your thing.

The 2.4 is not "nearly the same speaker" as the 2.3. It's way, way better.

McTeague,

You pay the price of assuming. If you think a speaker with a 7-9dB dip in the upper midrange on axis, audible breakup noise in the mids, double digit distortion at 90dB at 1 meter and several other malladies as "accurate" well I can see why you disagree with my assessment.

But when a speaker designer tells you that the side reflection will "fill in" the huge dip in the midrange...i'm drawing the line there.

Rave reviews? you're kidding me right? LOL!

As for my name, I'll put 7 channels against any BS 2 channel system an avid reader like yourslef can dream up.

Later.

Cinebuns,

Rave reviews? "Stereophile", "TAS", "Soundstage", and many more. Try reading sometime. The 2.3 and 2.4 are very similar. Check out the components and speak with Shari @ Thiel. Measurements? Measured at what distance? Where is the mike placed? 1st order crossover designs can be a bear to measure, just ask John Atkinson. Not everyone likes Thiel speakers but VERY few ever trash them as you have. Seems you have a grudge to me. I've listened to lots of speakers over the years and Thiels have consistantly displayed clean, accurate sound IMO. There are lots of other good speakers but many seem quite colored when up against Thiel. I compared Thiel 2.4s and Quad 988s in the same room a while back and they were not that far apart in sound with the Thiel being a bit more details and dynamic. A friend I brought along had the same opinion. You must follow some Thiel guidelines however. The amp must be comfortable with a 3-4 ohm load and you have to sit, not stand, no closer than 8' from the speakers.

Tim