Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp
Jeff (Jwm),
Even if you were to hear the MSB 100K dollar DAC and found it to sound exquisitely superb(😊) it still wouldn’t settle any debate in regard to superior D/A conversion. Rather it would speak to A to Z implementation and the "multiple " factors that contribute to a successful audio product.

You’ve been at this a long time and know it’s just a matter of time before the next "best DAC is anointed. Not being critical but you and I know this is the inevitable course. BTW the next anointed best DAC could utilize R2R, delta sigma or some other approach. So this question of superior conversion method is never settled.

Implementation trumps specific design approach as Al astutely summarized above.
Charles
@gdhal
Hi Hal,

No, my statement was not intended to imply that musical information is lost when data having more bits per sample and a lower sample rate is converted to fewer bits per sample at a higher sample rate. From a theoretical standpoint nothing will be lost if the increase in sample rate is sufficient to compensate for the decrease in bits per sample.

And while I do not have detailed familiarity with the specifics of modern delta-sigma DAC designs, user reports of good results with high end delta-sigma designs, published measurements, comments by some who have such familiarity (such as the comments provided by Steve and Shadorne yesterday), as well as my general belief (shared by many others here) that in audio how well a chosen design approach is implemented is usually more important than which approach is chosen, all lead me to believe that "throwing away the original samples" (as referred to by Schiit) is a non-issue in modern high end designs.

Best regards,
-- Al
Gentlemen, I want to thank you for the fascinating discussion and compliment you all on the level of decorum, respect and intelligence all have maintained!!! We have had multiple designers and manufacturers involved along with many enthusiasts and this “side debate” has stayed mature and informational for all to read. It just proves the quality and intelligence of those involved in helping keep this wonderful thread weaving and flowing for all these years. 

Sorry for the intrusion. But it makes a Pappa proud. :)
Charles I agree with you, but let’s put it this way. Say the Bricasti best the MSB, well there has not been any highly rated RTR yet that I have heard to be king. There can only be so many  one can test , but this may possibly show I prefer delta sigma. The point is I listen to and enjoy what sounds good. I’m not trying to bash RTR but so far to me it does not have a good track record.
It’s funny how the reviewer thought the total dac had more detail. I totally found the opposite. Not only more detail but also much more open and much bigger soundstage beyond the speakers for the Bricasti. When I told the total dac owner about not very open, he said, oh you have to try my new 20,000.00 dac seven. Oh my did I laugh to myself.