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Tube Amp Questions
Hello all!
I've decided to build my system around my Thiel CS 3.7 speakers. Currently, I'm using an ARC LS-7 tube line-stage (purchased just 3 weeks ago) feeding my old Denon PMA-2000 IVR integrated. Sources are laptop running Tidal & Roon, as well as Denon 2900 CD/SACD player. Musical tastes are varied, but I listen mostly to classic rock, the blues, classic jazz & Latin/bossanova.
My questions are regarding tube amps. One, in real-world experience, are they really that labor intensive to maintain & operate? Two, the particular amp im considering is an ARC VS110. According to ARC, it draws 400 watts at idle, 620 at rated output & 900 maximum. How big of an impact does running an amp like this have on an electric bill?
These are newbie questions, I know, but after a really long time as an admirer of the "High-End", I've finally decided to leave "Mid-Fi" behind, albeit by going the vintage/pre-owned route.
Thanks for any input or reccomendations!
Arvin
I've decided to build my system around my Thiel CS 3.7 speakers. Currently, I'm using an ARC LS-7 tube line-stage (purchased just 3 weeks ago) feeding my old Denon PMA-2000 IVR integrated. Sources are laptop running Tidal & Roon, as well as Denon 2900 CD/SACD player. Musical tastes are varied, but I listen mostly to classic rock, the blues, classic jazz & Latin/bossanova.
My questions are regarding tube amps. One, in real-world experience, are they really that labor intensive to maintain & operate? Two, the particular amp im considering is an ARC VS110. According to ARC, it draws 400 watts at idle, 620 at rated output & 900 maximum. How big of an impact does running an amp like this have on an electric bill?
These are newbie questions, I know, but after a really long time as an admirer of the "High-End", I've finally decided to leave "Mid-Fi" behind, albeit by going the vintage/pre-owned route.
Thanks for any input or reccomendations!
Arvin
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You didn't specify a budget but given the ARC option you mentioned, I assume you're looking for something in the $2K price range. With that in mind, there are lots of options out there if you're willing to go used, maybe even an older Krell or Mark Levinson, something that can handle a 2 ohm load without breaking a sweat. How's your current 80wpc Denon managing such demanding speakers? |
@kalali Well, the Denon doubles to 160 watts @ 4 ohms, so it works ok. Truth be told, I got the speakers at such a good price locally that I'm starting with them as the building block and going from there. The ARC VS110 I offered on went to someone else, so...in hind sight, it was prob for the better as the majority of feedback I've gotten from here as well as from friends is that SS is a better option for Thiels. You're right: I'm shopping in the $2K - $3K range. There are two options that are catching my eye right now, a Krell KST-100 & a Pass Labs x150. Both are Class A for some of their range, then switching to Class A/B. My concern now is my ARC LS-7 line stage. How do I know if it will "match" these (or any other) amplifiers? Arvin |
Arvin, according to its manual the Pass X150 has a specified balanced input impedance of 22K, with no spec indicated for its unbalanced input impedance. The unbalanced input of course is what you would be using with your LS-7. Most likely the unbalanced input impedance is much lower than 22K, quite possibly 11K. Per my earlier comments even 22K would at best be marginal for use with your LS-7, and 11K would be completely unacceptable. So I would not recommend that amp. On the other hand, I looked at Stereophile’s measurements of the KST-100, and I see no compatibility issues whatsoever. The only concern would be the condition of the specific amplifier you may purchase, given its age. Good luck. Regards, -- Al |
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