Integrateds: Why do they all SUCK?

How about my restored Scott 233 and LK72? Vintage tube sound at its best!        Also my Proton 520 SS can kick serious b*tt!

jond
2,619 posts
01-31-2018 4:32pm
The OP has already answers his own, once again trolling, question. "Aside from a few very high end products", yes it's expensive to do all those things right. As with many things you get what you pay for.

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+1 ...... Nailed it ! .....point , set, and match! ..... ( Emphasis added). 

Don't feed the troll......full stop.

Definition of an Internet Troll per Wikipedia :

".... In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the troll's amusements..."

There are plenty of perfect integrateds with an output of about 100 watt per channel. A good example would be the Yamaha AS 701/801. The problem arises if you need more power than that. Almost nobody seems to make integrateds with all the modern stuff like digital inputs, and a power output of 200 watts or more. And yet, that is what you need for most high quality loudspeakers in anything other than a small room.

My my..One of the highest quality integrated amps in the U.S., hand made in sunny California, just popped up on TMR, brand new, not used,
50% off. The CODA CSiB. The V3 version. A real brute if you need a lot of muscle. 400 watts per side @ 8 ohms. All silver finish, I'm considering buying it to put in my Bentley. Sure is pretty at $ 2799.00.