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PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium

Hi,

First and foremost let me say I’m not trying to start any war of words, bash any manufacturers products or any HiFi dealers. I’m just stating my humble opinion. In the words of Denzel Washington in the movie Malcom X we’ve been hoodwinked and led astray when it comes to the whole audiophile phenomenom. I recently owned a ARC REF 5SE, REF 110 and ARC solid state DS450M mono-block amps. They were driving my Magnepan 20.7’s and my Meridian music streamer. I just switched all of it out for a PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP amplifier with KT150 tubes and a PL Dialogue Premium preamplifier and two these ears my Maggie’s have never sounded so good. I’m going to add another PL Dialogue Premium HP next week and then I can honestly say I am done with my search for high fidelity sound. People please don’t let other dealers and manufacturers tell you, you need to spend $$$$ to achieve musical nirvana it’s all hype. I fell for that crap and I’m really embarrassed to say it. PrimaLuna is a superior musical instrument that honestly should cost 4 to 5 times more for their Dialogue Premium line. The build and features are second to none. Please please don’t let these dealers tell you other wise. It’s all about the benjamins and they want you to invest your hard earned money in there over priced crap. I invite anyone to listen to my system and tell me this isn’t as good as it gets and that this is not how music should sound. I live in Seattle and I  reached out to Upscale Audio’s Kevin Deal after 1 1/2 weeks of watching his videos and banging my head against the wall over my inferior lifeless musical experience. I took a leap of faith after reading several reviews and seriously doing some home work and made decision. Wow PL and KD thank you for not making me look like and absolute fool. I honestly feel like I stole from PL and Upscale Audio. Can’t stop tapping my feet and shaking my head. Bye for now and if one person listens to PRimaLuna after reading this thread my mission is complete. Peace,  Miles and Dizzy are on stage with Stevie Ray riding shotgun!
bluesy41
bluesy41 OP
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@dpac996 

You're correct system synergy is so important. I purchased mine and I couldn't be happier. I have been to many live venues across this country and I wanted to bring that type of reproduction to my home. I fell in love years ago with the sound from a VTL-85 stereo amp, Vandersteen 3A Signatures and VTL's 2.5 preamplifier. Brand new all cost less than 10k and now for a sound equal to that you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money. So I tried ARC, Ayre, Linn and VTL to name and few and have auditioned many more and I just found the PrimaLuna Dialogue separates to just be amazing with my 20.7's and it's not even dialed in. I believe after about 50 hours of use and some minor tube rolling I will have something very special.

Cheers and keep the love of music alive!

timo62
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Bluesy41 ,
I agree , Primaluna makes some great sounding tube amps , preamps and integrated amps. Great value for the money! 
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oddiofyl
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That's great you are getting so much enjoyment out of your new gear.   I had my doubts about the brand not having seen them before and during the course of auditioning speakers I listened to their EL 34 integrated amp.   It really sounded great.  Really nice build quality too. Good luck and enjoy.
adeep42
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Another really happy PL owner. I also did a lot of listening and research moving back from SS to tubes. Did watch Kevin on youtube and actually spoke to him for quite a while when I was thinking about buying some high end used equipment from him. Wound up with a Dialogue Preamp and two amps to use as mono blocs. I'm driving Martin Logan Summit X's. The sonics are awesome. I did roll some Gold Lion KT88s in. I like them much better than the EL34s. I almost always run them in triode mode. All the power I'll ever need.
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audioman58
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One thing I can say most other font know having nodded equipment for years,and owning Audio shop in the ZUK
Rule of thumb less then 25% actually hoes into the build the rest overhead, and dealer markup.
Premium products do much better .the prima Luna  top product s
Have decent parts but not great parts by any means. You can easily make it sound at least 10% + at bare minimum just by buying premium capaciyors, resistors,  regulators  and a Bunch of other stuff for $1k or less in parts, plus labor it would be a $8k + in musicality  even the volume controlled leaves a Lot to be desired 
All signal goes through them  even tube sockets the Teflon Copper Gold ones I have been using truly open up the tube night and day less resistance copper vs brass ,yes the is what  the Di has gold plated brass.  Think about it you have st most $1100:in casework and parts to box  that is why modding of Anything Audio to Auto
Is do popular .your money is going directly into the heart of the 
Build. If anyone says different they are full of crap. I have been found mods for over 20 year. Almost everything I buy I look for weaknesses before even playing a song .I just bought a excellrnt Canary Triode Quad 300b amp. Sent it off to replace all coupling caps and circuit upgrades to my Master tech  of 40 years .
I go to the extreme, many guys won't bother ,even your Blue fuses add to the clarity.
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