Looking for vintage Quad ESL's - or my wife thinks a "shrink" becase she says I'm crazy!


Been out of the hi-fi ’scene’ since the early 80’s. My last system was a pair of Quad ESL-57’s with a Quad 303 amp, Hafler DH101 pre-amp (kit I built) and a Linn LP-12 and Grace tonearm (can’t remember what cartridge I had). I bought all of it for a song back then. The speakers were $300 (nobody knew what they were or what they were worth), I got the LP12 for $500 (salesman accommodation). The power amp and pre-amp were $200 combined. Oh yeah, I worked at a hi-fi store in Chapel Hill NC which explains some of the deals I got. Sold *everything* to pay for a down payment on a trailer as I had just gotten married. Skip 35 years, raised three kids, put them all through college, worked as a software engineer until retiring. Now I want to get back into my original passion. I can’t afford to buy new stuff, the price has gone ballistic. So, I’m beginning again to put together a system to listen to my music on. I still have my Hafler pre-amp which I will use if it still works until I can get something better. I just bought two 125 watt monoblock tube amplifier kits from Bob Latino (www.tubes4hifi.com). I love building things and am very handy with a soldering iron! Also, I always loved the sound of tubes.

Speakers...That’s where I need help. I *really* loved the way my old Quad ESL-57’s sounded. When I was 15 (I’m now 66) my friends dad had stacked Quad ESL-57’s and I swear I’ve NEVER heard anything as good since then! That’s why I’m really wanting to go back to electrostatic speakers. I’ve auditioned some of the Martin Logan stuff at Best Buy. I’m astounded that they are distributed in that chain..I also was flabbergasted that McIntosh was sold there too. Regardless, the salespeople don’t know what to demonstrate let alone setup up quality hifi equipment. They sounded terrible. Even after listening to the ML speakers on several different occasions I concluded I don’t like the way they sound. I still think a proper pair of Quad’s is the way to go. The problem is finding a pair! I’ve discovered Electrostatic Solutions LTD and if I get a decent looking pair intend to have them rebuilt there. I’m guessing after I find a pair and get them refurbished I’ll be spending between $4K and $5K. Unless I find a great deal on a pair that is already up to snuff.

DAC - I never knew what a DAC was until recently but conclude that I need one since I will be listening to music streaming from my iPhone, my Mac Mini etc. I feel really ignorant on what kind of DAC I need. I’ve noticed that some of them can double as a pre-amp too and hook directly up my power amps. That might be good for a temporary solution until I can get a proper preamp. Still, DAC’s can range from $500 - $15K. I have no idea what features I need or whether the low end DAC’s are even worth it.

I really need some suggestions. If I had the money I’d go to an audiophile salon and buy my equipment proper. But I don’t so I have to get the best equipment I can with my limited resources. I’m not exactly poor, but I could never justify to my wife spending $20K on audio equipment. Dang, I looked into getting another Linn Sondek LP12. The price is sky high compared to my ’82 version although there are differences between the basic model I had in 1982 and what they’re producing now. Still...I may need to wait on a turntable until I get speakers and a DAC.

I feel overcome with choices! New gear, used gear, electrostatic speakers, conventional speakers... Maybe my wife is right. I need some Valium and a good shrink!!

Mark in Big Stone Gap VA

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Wow! I never thought my little thread would get so much mileage! I'm impressed. It's a testimony to the impact the Quad speakers had on HiFi. 

I got my Quad 303, 33 and tuner this week. The 33 and tuner beautifully ensconced in a walnut case. I'm not impressed with the quality of the POTS, especially  the tuner with no balanced  flywheel. Still, I think they're very sexy looking. But.. Just to touch a bit of history! 

I shot my wad buying my Bob Latino amps and Quad electronics. No money right now for ESLs. In the couple months I need to recoup my monies I'll have time to think whether I really want the 57s or maybe something newer.

Maybe I should start a Go Fund Me account to see who will donate some money to me so I can compete my passion! Music, HiFi, sex drugs rock and roll! (Just kidding about the drugs!). Anybody want to donate towards a pair of Quads for poor little me, I got a PayPal account! I'll be your new best friend!!! In the meantime I need to sell my 2002 BMW 1150R motorcycle to help pay off this stuff. 

Regards, Mark
Music, HiFi, sex drugs rock and roll!

You will not be able to use 57's for rock and roll without properly integrated subs for the bottom octave. Double stacks do not play any lower but do reinforce what is there. This is documented in the interview available online with Peter Walker. 

My recommendation is for subs that allow for remote DB level adjustment from your listening position, as bass on Music is engineered differently album to album, and genre to genre.

My solution is documented on my AudioGon virtual system.

Good luck and I would keep the bike btw....

Just include in your selling the all electronics you described above! Sorry but its all garbage! I dont want to sound brutal! If you dont have money, just buy elac speakers and ps audio sprout!