How can I tell if I need a better clock for my DAC?


I was interested in the responses to a related post by leemaze this week, saying that a Synchro Mesh was a good way to improve a DAC with subpar jitter.  I have a Cambridge CXU, with an inboard DAC; how could I determine how much jitter it has? 
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Clocking before the DAC can make a huge difference.

Agree. I use a PS Audio PWT transport which, as many of you know, reads the CD and loads it into a buffer. It then clocks the data and sends out a timed bitstream to an external DAC.
This is why a good cable is needed to preserve the reduced jitter signal.



Interface jitter is a fact of life. It doesn’t matter what you do. The only complete solution to interface jitter is to select a DAC device that ignores the incoming clock and uses it own internal asynchronous clock. Note that this will still leave you with the intrinsic jitter of the device itself but at least you won’t have to worry about fancy cables or what length to use.

Alternatively, reclockers and a random selection of cables might help reduce interface jitter if you want to stick with a DAC that does a poor job of eliminating incoming jitter itself...kind of a dogs breakfast of a solution as you can never totally get rid of interface jitter and you would not even know if you had.

What you can do at home is listen.  If you hear a good track on another friends system that has superb focus, clarity and liveness and your system makes the vocalist 2 feet wide and the guitar 1 foot wide, then you have jitter.  If you hear echoes or "fill" between instruments in your system and not in your friends system, you have jitter.

There are standard jitter tests that display the spectrum of the jitter on the D/A output given a standard input signal from a disk.  If you were an engineer with the right equipment you could perform these measurements.

The problem is that even if you could, the results are not well correlated to listening tests.  I mean really bad jitter in the measurements is audible, but more subtle jitter can be just as audible and will not show up in the measurements.  This is the problem with the state of our measurement technology today.  May improve in the future though.

What you can do at home to improve jitter from your transport is:

1) treat the disks with Ultrabit platinum

2) spray-coat the top side on the disk with a rubber coating to reduce vibration - get this at Home Depot or Michaels etc.. Mask it properly with thin card stock.

3) re-write the disk on CDROM using DBpoweramp on PC or XLD on Mac - this improves the pit shape over the commercial disk

4) pay a modder to install a new clock and clock voltage regulator/power supply

#4 will make the biggest improvement in a CDP, but you will still benefit from 1-3 even with the modded clock.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

is it safe to assume that the   manufacturer has dealt with this in making the one-box unit, making the transport section and DAC function together in a way that keeps jitter to a minimum?

Certainly not.  If this were the case, I would not have modded CD players for 10 years and got paid handsomely for that.  I don't mod anymore.

Steve N.

Empirical Audio

@gdhal, so if you agree with my analogy then you would have to agree that reducing jitter, no matter how that is done, like reducing stress, that is a good thing.