Simple snake oil detection


Hi there were soooo many posts asking af any given device, toy, tweak or component is snake oil.
I’m not considered to be disbeliever or engineering guru at all. All I know and use is elementary math.

If an amp worth more than new Bmw, I can kinda take that with grain of salt, but if a wire is worth more than stainway grand, I am DEFINITELY sure snake oil is there without even questioning if this particular product makes sense 

So now any audio device can be plugged into the detection formula above to truthfully define snake oil. All you need to know is product name, description and asking price.

czarivey
I really wish the bickering here would stop. But, because it endures:
gdhal
Nothing was promoted. You (clearthink) gladly accepted a genuine challenge that you’re unable and/or unwilling to participate in. And why? Because *YOU CANNOT* audibly hear a difference if ordinary speaker wire is reversed. So what we have here in fact isn’t about anything fraudulent on my part but the exposure of you as a liar.
Actually, gdhal, you did promote a $25,000 challenge that was based on an unscientific protocol. This is from an earlier post of yours:

I’m using Belden 5T00UP speaker wire .. I have a business proposition ... a blind or double blind test where it is my position that you *cannot* reliably hear a difference, and it would be your position that you could reliably hear a difference.

If interested, and if the amount is worthwhile (low five figures?) we can have our attorney’s draw up the contracts, establish an escrow account and so on.
Later, you specified the $25,000 "reward," but that and a lot of other details about your "offer" were deleted by moderators.

@cleeds

I have the entire transcript myself. There is a difference between my "offering" a challenge and "promoting" it. Nevertheless, believe whatever you like.

Something else to keep in mind. Note my insistence on legal council. This ensures *your*, not just my own, best interests are upheld.

If I recall, you too state you can hear a difference when ordinary speaker wire is reversed. Yet you declined my offer. Why?

Additionally, you omitted the part of the communication where I asked for <redacted> to submit an alternative procedure.

I also mentioned/wrote I do not discriminate. So cleeds, I’ll re-extend my original offer to you, seeing that you too can do the impossible. You know how to contact me if you’re interested.
I really wish the bickering here would stop. But, because it endures:

That's because the bickering centres around "snake oil" that preys on the gullible, and only serves to make money for the "snake oil" manufactures and their shills that promote it here on Audiogon.

Cheers George 
Where would high end audio be without snake oil?   Who would pay those prices without at least a little lubricating first up front?