Personas....7F vs 9H

Thanks Prof and Kdude.

Kdude the hot ticket in the line is the 3F which for the extra money just delivers way more performance then the Bs, at $7k plus stands vs $10k no stands and you have much deeper bass, makes the 3F the best value in fact, Paradigm has admitted that they make very little money on the 3F's.

We tested JL Audio's subs, which we love and the SVS FB 13 which was not as fast or as clean as the JL audio. The Paradigm SW 1000 and the 2000 are really terrific, the SW  2000 actually sounded better to us then the mighty JL Fathom 113v2 which we also display. 

In terms of the 3F vs the 5F the 5F still sound better due to the larger physical size of the 5F and the way a larger speaker projects sound into a room aside from the extra bass.

Kdude the Lawrence are nice speakers so if you like them that is great, we love Ribbons tweeters. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

Audiotroy,
Thank you for your recommendation,My local dealer,audio advice just doesn’t get enough interest in upper model speakers but I’m gonna try and twist their arm to display the 3F.
I really think if they make the investment it would spark more interest in the persona line for them.

If the double basses aren’t my cup of tea,I maybe calling you guys.

I have no affiliation with audio doctor either but I enjoy reading their posts,I think they provide solid info with no pressure and that’s what these threads could use more of.

Kenny.

audiotroy,

Whereabouts do you like to crossover to the JL Subs when you use them (e.g. with the Personas)?

Prof,

We take the Rel approach, we don't recommend any crossover going to the main speakers;

We recomend using the crossover frquency and level controls to bring up the subwoofer to the point of acoutical roll off of the mains. 

Play a bass heavy track and then turn on and off the subwoofer, while repeating the track. Bass heavy should be a bass guitar, standup bass, not electronic.

When the blend is good the sub should be felt rather than heard. A good subwoofer is adding pressure to the leading and trailing notes of the main speakers. 

Tightness of bass is also related to where the sub is located in the room, avoiding corner loanding and keeping the sub on the same plane as the main speakers and moving the subs position also helps to tune the bass for tightness and definition. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

BUMP, got to spend a couple hours with the 7f yesterday and am thinking about listing a kidney on ebay, is that legal? The 7f had me laughing uncontrollably for a couple minutes I was so alarmed by the presentation and unless your room is a black hole for bass I expect it would be great. M room is a black hole for bass and I really want that sound I heard yesterday, and I can't afford the 9H.