Neil Young - Guitarist


We all know Neil for his outstanding songwriting skills and some may even recognize his talents with a guitar but is he underrated? in 2015 Rolling Stone ranked him as number 17 of 100 greatest guitarists of all time. Can anyone pull more raw emotion out of a guitar than Neil?

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You  can be a great musician without being a great instrumentalist and you can even be a great instrumentalist without being a great musician.  I would argue that the former is far more common than the latter situation.  But being a great instrumentalist and even a great musician doesn't guarantee that you will produce great music.  It just ain't that easy.

ESPN recently came up with a list of the most dominate athletes in their specific sports.  They crunched the statistics and determined that Peyton Manning was #3 and Tom Brady was #20 across all sports.  I can understand someone arguing that Manning is "better" than Brady, but it is nonsensical to say there is a 17 place difference between them.  Similarly, I don't think many people are arguing that Neil Young is not a great musician and a capable guitarist, but there's no way on earth that he is #17 on a list of greatest guitarist.

It may be subjective, but some people can just flat out play better than others.
The drumming by the lady of Little Hurricane duo is interesting. A good example of musicality. I don’t think she has much chops but her style is refreshing.

THANK YOU, 'astewart8944' !   'BDP24' might notice that every player I mentioned is (or was) a great artist, who plays with creativity, passion and taste.  There's not a 'shredder' in the group.  (And, yes, I agree that there are a zillion rock guitarists with good technique, but zero soul.) 

And any one of them would explain that great artistic expression requires great technical skill on their chosen instrument.

Charlie Parker once said that he wanted to be able to play whatever he felt... and to do that, he needed to practice 4 hours a day.

Music doesn't simply spring from the heart.  It also 'springs' from many lonely hours developing your chops.

@bdp24 Thanks for your further explanation. I respect your point of view. I would answer your question by saying that, in your illustration, Steve Smith is a vastly better drummer than Richard Manuel. Steve Smith has the technical chops to play different genres at a high professional level. That he chose to play RNR with Journey doesn't make him a pedestrian drummer, it makes him a gainfully employed drummer. And his drumming with Journey isn't pedestrian. Steve Smith was inducted into the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame in 2002. Richard Manuel will never be considered for that honor because he wasn't a serious drummer--he was a singer/piano player that sometimes drummed and when he did it, he did so admirably.
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I have found that many musician’s who have highly developed technique are often prone to play in a manner as to make sure that fact is obvious to all. Guitarist’s parts are arrived at with a few factors involved, the balance between those factors being what determines the "kind" of player they are perceived as being. And different styles of music require different kinds of skills, thought the same basics are needed for all music’s, of course. Music theory is indiscriminate.

Albert Lee has been a big favorite of mine since the 1970’s. For those who know of him, I need say nothing more. For those who don’t, he is a Telecaster player who plays rather fast runs, in a basically Country style. He has played with Emmylou Harris, and was with The Everly Brothers for years. Dave Edmunds, another favorite guitarist of mine (and the best Chuck Berry-style guitarist of which I am aware. Keith Richards WISHES he could play like Dave), absolutely loves Albert’s playing.

I didn’t learn of Danny Gatton until the 1990’s, but fell hard once I did. Talk about technique! He was (R.I.P.) also a Telecaster player, and worked with Joe Barden creating those great Tele pickups. He was a guitarist’s guitarist, with highly developed chops, but also very musical sensibilities. Vince Gill nicknamed Danny "The Humbler".

I also love Richard Thompson, a Strat player. he has a very unique, immediately-identifiable style, like no one else. Also on a Strat is Marshall Crenshaw, thought of more a songwriter and singer, but also a fantastic, musical guitarist. He is also a really fine drummer.

And then there is Ry Cooder. His playing just makes time stand still. His middle break (okay, solo) in John Hiatt’s "Lipstick Sunset" is the most lyrical, beautiful music making I have ever heard from a guitarist. And for a perfect-for-the-song, musical guitar break, give a fresh listen to George Harrison’s playing in the middle of "Nowhere Man". His tone is absolutely electrifying! Compressed to the nth degree, but to great musical effect.

I love the approach musicians take on their non-main instrument. Rather than thinking in terms of the instrument itself---patterns of thought relating to the playing of the instrument in isolation, learned in the need to become proficient on the instrument---the musician approaches the playing of the instrument in terms of what is called for MUSICALLY. Stevie Wonder is a good drummer in that way, as was Andrew Gold (Ronstadt’s guitarist in the 70’s), Emitt Rhodes, and Todd Rundgren. And, yes, Richard Manuel. Levon Helm said when that when he got up to Big Pink to rejoin The Hawks, Richard, who had been playing drums during Levon’s absence, quickly became his favorite drummer. He was a FANTASTIC drummer, MUCH better in purely musical terms than Steve Smith. Richard was inducted into The Rock ’n Roll Hall Of Fame too, ya know!

If a guitar (or other instrument) part is perfect for the music in which it is played, if it works well musically, or even just sonically, what difference does it make how "hard" the part was to play, how much technique is required to play it? Why is technique for it’s own sake elevated to such a lofty position? I’ll tell you what I think: The evaluation of playing on purely technical terms is an objective one---just like sports stats. That's easy. The evaluation of playing musically or artistically is subjective, a much different endeavor.