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Charles Hansen of Ayre Acoustics and many other audio manufacturers use
Minimum Phase filters in their digital components. It is my
understanding that the purpose of these filters is to eliminate
preringing. I know very little about electronics so
I may be wrong about that. With that, I'm out of this discussion.
" - tomcy6
Ok. Let's be clear about what minimum phase filters are. By definition, a minimum phase filter is a filter that remains causal and stable when used in a linear, time invariant system. All that really means is that phase and gain changes cannot result in oscillation (unstable). For this to occur, the poles and zeros of the transfer function plot have to stay inside the unit circle. A common example of violation of this characteristic happens when an amplifier's overall phase shift is 180 degrees at unity gain. Under those circumstances, a typical feedback amplifier will oscillate.
In terms of filters, it really has nothing to do with impulse response. As noted previously, to generate a very rapidly increasing and rapidly decreasing voltage spike in a linear, time invariant system - requires and extremely sharp (steep) filter. That's where the ringing (instability) comes in. A minimum phase filter in Charlie's case is simply a gradual rolloff (low phase shift with frequency) filter that is causal and stable - minimum phase. We are talking apples and oranges here. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever about an impulse signal that is "minimum phase".
Ok. Let's be clear about what minimum phase filters are. By definition, a minimum phase filter is a filter that remains causal and stable when used in a linear, time invariant system. All that really means is that phase and gain changes cannot result in oscillation (unstable). For this to occur, the poles and zeros of the transfer function plot have to stay inside the unit circle. A common example of violation of this characteristic happens when an amplifier's overall phase shift is 180 degrees at unity gain. Under those circumstances, a typical feedback amplifier will oscillate.
In terms of filters, it really has nothing to do with impulse response. As noted previously, to generate a very rapidly increasing and rapidly decreasing voltage spike in a linear, time invariant system - requires and extremely sharp (steep) filter. That's where the ringing (instability) comes in. A minimum phase filter in Charlie's case is simply a gradual rolloff (low phase shift with frequency) filter that is causal and stable - minimum phase. We are talking apples and oranges here. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever about an impulse signal that is "minimum phase".