Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp
@fuzzbutt17 

Benjamin,

I just skimmed through your article, "The 24-Bit Delusion" and I see we will not agree. You article is full of untrue claims, IMO. 24 bits are not just about dynamic range. Higher bitrates properly used in recording are for greater headroom, to avoid digital clipping, or unneeded processing. Higher bitrates also provide for greater S/N levels, lower digital distortion, reduction of noise from processing, and eliminating unneeded processing. 

"In contrast, some of my favorite digital recordings were digitally mastered from 1950s analog recordings. Many of these recordings were done as a group of musicians playing in a room with one take per track and a minimum of post-production editing. Though these recordings have a much higher background noise being limited by old-school pre-Dolby 60dB dynamic range master tapes, they retain an organic character that can't be duplicated any other way. When you hear the organic character and coherent in-the-room harmonics, it is clear why so many audiophiles prize these recordings."

You conclusion is incorrect. Your preference has nothing to do with dynamic range, but with the use of tube mics & gear, RtR analog recordings, as well as the recording style. Digital masters can retain many elements of analog recordings, and higher bitrates are much more capable.

Remove the filtering from your DAC, and see how you like 16 vs 24 bits.
@sadono

You write with wisdom like a child, directly to the heart. I trust you will interpret my questions as genuine.

Simple yes/no questions if I may... no need to elaborate beyond yes/no but by all means do so if so inclined...

- does this 16 vs 24 bit "difference" effect your enjoyment of listening to music?

- are you able to discern a difference between 16/24 in a blind test (assuming you’ve tried)?

Thanks.
Gdhal,
I cited George as he has repeated this often on this particular thread/site. I realize that there are manufacturers who share this view but certainly not all do. Given that Empirical Audio has produced both I was interested in their opinion regarding the multi bit/R2R "bit perfect" claim. More importantly how relevant is it ultimately to actual sound quality.
Charles
I realize that there are manufacturers who share this view but certainly not all do.

Maybe it’s because the ones that don’t Charles, can’t make "discrete R2R dac’s" as the complexity is many many times higher, and they also can’t get R2R dac chips ready made any more.
So they don’t have an option but to go to DS or DS hybrid, as these chips are available (and cheap) .
BTW: You don’t see anyone going to the trouble of doing a discrete DS or DS/hybrid do you? Why is that?

Cheers George