Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp
We had 5 techs, 3 non techs at our meeting and were all insistent on perfect level matching.
All levels were matched overhaul not by spl by ear or meter but by the voltage down to the mV fed into the speakers at differing sine waves with a tech cd to get the levels absolutely identical to the mV 
And the Total Dac 7 with larger optional off board power supply, was by far the better, with PCM Redbook replay.

Cheers George  
Yep,
Different groups of listeners, ears,systems etc. Contrasting opinions are nothing new within  the niche of High End audio. I don’t question either group of listener’s conclusions. All of us just report honestly what we hear. Both DACs have happy and loyal owners. Certainly experienced audiophiles and music lovers comprised both groups.
Charles
Wow guys, gone for a week and right back to PCM vs R2R again. George must be here, lol. 

This is NOT a thread on R2R vs PCM technolog. Nor is it a thread on why R2R is the ONLY design that should be used, George. I don’t believe in absolutes. As I have said, I’ve heard a LOT of dacs that sound great. 

I have some great stuff coming. Stay tuned. 

Im home this evening. 👍🏻
This is NOT a thread on R2R vs PCM technolog.


" Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD" 
Sorry but you being the OP headed this.  

That's why it went down that path again after you gave such a good report of the R2R Multibit   "Mojo Mystique V3"  with comments like this.

SO, if you are looking for a single ended DAC you’d be a fool to not listen to the sub $6K single ended Mystique V3!

Of course, DSD lovers need not apply.

Then it's about "best for PCM RedBook" as you stated. And of course the talk will come down to technology.

I hope you do some more Matt from the list below, as it will broaden your horizons on what constitutes an great pcm RedBook dac.
  
As I posted there are many discrete R2R ones now being made (below) as R2R chip converters are unobtainable except for the military missile guidance one that Shiit uses, hopefully they do come back as manufacturing techniques improve to laser trim all those microscopic resistors to a minuscule % .0000001% or less without the massive costs of doing it.
There is a large market for them to come back to, if Delta Sigma can't in the future get the sound from PCM that these R2R's can, but I do admit the 6bit hybrid DS's are getting closer, maybe they just need to go the full wack to 24bit with no DS who knows. Just keep DS for DSD/SACD conversion. 

Up to $3k: Border Patrol, Monarchy, Denafrips, Audio-gd, MHDT, Holo, Soeskris, Metrum, Schiit

$5-$15K: Audio Note, MSB, Metrum, Computer Audio Design, Aqua, LessLoss, Totaldac, Lampizator

$15K+: CH Precision, Aries Cerat, Light Harmonic, Audio Note, MSB, Totaldac, Lampizator

**Special mention to MSB, Monarchy and Audio Note, who never gave up R2R. Even after the takeover of delta-sigma.

Cheers George



I am also in the side that thinks that all common architectures (R2R, DS, FPGA) can work when implemented with care.

Speaking of FPGA, have you read or listened to PS Audio and how they implemented the DirectStream Dac?

I think the technical descriptions are interesting and much more detailed than most other companies. I haven't heard the dac  but of anyone has any compared it to other dacs mentioned in this thread I would like to hear what you think.