Thanks again Eric. My living room is about 25x16, with the speakers about 8-9' apart and 12-13' from my ear on the shorter axis. Three solid walls, with tapestries hung front and rear on the cathedral walls and I have some foam in the corners, The fourth wall opens into the breakfast area. I have played with speaker placement until I feel I have accomplished the best imaging and sound stage I can, but it still lacks a little presence and realism. I understand I am at the 'entry' level with the separates, but I feel there is something to gain with the speaker upgrade. I would move the Kef's to the surround position for the theater processing, but I prefer to listen in stereo mode much, if not most of the time. What I would really love is for the mains to 'disappear' and the sound to originate behind the speaker plane with a much larger sound stage. I would say I tend to lean more toward the realism than the musicality. I know it's a pretty tall order for a $5k system.