Has anyone heard the Magico Mini?


I am very curious to hear the Magico Mini. It is getting great press in many areas and I am wandering if anyone has heard them. How do they compare to the Wilson Watt 8's or the Kharma's or the new Sonus Faber Guarneri's etc.
If I am not mistaken, they are priced about the same as the Watt/Pup 8's and more the Guarneri or Kharma 3.2.
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I heard the Mini's without the Torus subs very briefly..most of the time the Toruis subs were hooked up, so I would not want to comment much on the difference, but I wold imagine that with the right music and in the right room the mini's by themselves would be just fine!
The Magico Mini's have a boxless sound, of a "whole cloth" that portrays musical instruments in full size and shape do in no small part to they're "uber" bracing and construction
To use the phrase...there's just more there THERE!
Being now 4+ yrs. old they are about to receive an "upgrade" to both speakers and crossover to the tune of a 22% increase in price, not to mention round trip shipping!
Are they worth it? A long and serious listen is needed to decide if all YOUR musical parameteres are being met.
Owning these and two Torus's i can tell you that the "infrasonic generators" {read subs } work best on full orchestra and chamber music as well as solo voice with accomp. music.
Hope this helps'''
I am an owner of the minis. I extremely pleased with my purchase. I am in the process of upgrading to monoblock amps to realize their fullest potential. Will the mini 2 upgrade be significant with regard to the bass response and overall performance? Has a price been set other than "22%"?
Alon Wolf told me at CES that the change of woofer is further improving the sound of the mini: much stiffer membrane= lower resonance (I was said the new mini goes ~3dB lower)and less distortion
I was said also at CES that price has been set at $26k
Just wanted to give my latest thoughts.My friend owning the Mini II's just added the Harmonic Resonators to his listening room.A definite improvement.The speakers really are amazing and in his 12x20 ft room and there is no sense that a sub is needed....YET....
Sadly I believe the speaker has gone up to 30,000 US dollars.Though I would consider purchasing the speaker in the future,this price is becomming "questionably" high!!I will be extra careful about possible competitors NOW!
I am aware of the US dollar being low,but the design is supposedly an American made product(I know some parts are from Europe),and I think this reflects a bit of overt pricing,even with increases in parts costs.I HAVE to state this,as it seems the review community could "care less" about potential consumers,as long as the performance envelope is superb.The ongoing blog on TAS web pages does not seem to be too concerned,though the contributing TAS reviewer,who admitted that Alon Wolf was a "friend" does not seem to be to worried,and hasn't so much as hinted about prices getting...well err "dumb",at this point!It didn't use to be this way!!There was a time when "concerned" reviewers were responsible enough to state "enough".The HP of the 1970-1980's-1990's surely would have,IMO!!
Of course I am simply "emoting",but I predict there will be a considerable number of fabulous "two way" competitors all vying for Magico's market share,with the cavelier pricing of this new Mini.I think Magico's good times may not last too long,as products from Ridge Street Audio,AAD,and Volent(amongst others)will impact the "approaching over-pricey" market share Magico seems to temporarily own.Guaranteed,companies like JM Labs/Focal will bring out an even better version of the Mini Be design "they" already market.Not to mention Sonus Faber Guarneiri Momento,Dynaudio C-1(fabulous,IMO)etc.
I'm sorry for my angst,but I obviously like this Magico,and would want to consider this,at some future point,yet though I can afford the new pricing,there comes a point where I say "NO"!....Getting close!!
Best.