People who state things that are highly subjective are not really hoping or expecting everyone to just take thier every word as gospel truth,(or at least lets hope thats the case).Often its just as innocent as sitting on the couch with someone and hearing something and mentioning it to the other person, silently expecting a corroborative response or the opposite.The natural world, (soundwaves included) is way way more complex than our technology of measuring is,so subjective should definitely be the priority and perhaps backed up by measurements when they are sophisticated enough to concur.When dealing with electronics we are always dealing with flow of electrons and even molecules and atoms.I read a while ago the fact, that one drop of water has more molecules than the number of grains of sand on all the world's beaches combined.With unimaginably small minuteness like that, electrons molecules etc.is there anyone who actually thinks that anyone in audio has measuring devices that tell it all? A lot of very experienced designers will tell you that measurements and how something actually sounds is often nill.Or even the opposite.I think our state of the art in measuring and our understanding of it still has many miles to go in 2018.The world is a lot more complex that many people comprehend.The next time you can't hear an FM broadcast until you stand up in a certain spot or have to extend your leg up in the air and hold it, just think of that.
Beware the audio guru
There are a few contributors to these forums who apparently see themselves as gurus. They speak in absolutes, using words such as "always" and "never." They make pronouncements about products or techniques they’ve never heard or experienced, justifying their conclusions because contrary claims are "impossible" or "snake oil." Those who disagree are accused of being "deluded," or suffering some insurmountable bias, or attempting to further some commercial agenda. On occasion, they have taunted detractors with an appeal that they engage in a wager - one guy wanted $25,000 cash up front and an agreement drafted by lawyers. Another offered 5-to-1 odds.
I am not going to tell you who to believe. But for anyone who might be uncertain about sorting out conflicting claims here, I suggest they consider the behavior of experts in other fields. No good doctor offers a 100 percent guarantee on any treatment or surgical procedure, even if medical science suggests success. No good attorney will tell you that you have a case that positively can’t be lost, even if the law appears to be on your side. No true professional will insult you for the questions you ask, or abandon you if you seek a second opinion.
A doctor conducts his own tests. An engineer makes his own measurements. Neither will insist the burden of documentation falls upon you.
These might be details to consider as you sift through the many conflicting claims made on Audiogon. In short: Decide for yourself. Don’t let other people tell you how to think, or listen.
I am not going to tell you who to believe. But for anyone who might be uncertain about sorting out conflicting claims here, I suggest they consider the behavior of experts in other fields. No good doctor offers a 100 percent guarantee on any treatment or surgical procedure, even if medical science suggests success. No good attorney will tell you that you have a case that positively can’t be lost, even if the law appears to be on your side. No true professional will insult you for the questions you ask, or abandon you if you seek a second opinion.
A doctor conducts his own tests. An engineer makes his own measurements. Neither will insist the burden of documentation falls upon you.
These might be details to consider as you sift through the many conflicting claims made on Audiogon. In short: Decide for yourself. Don’t let other people tell you how to think, or listen.
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