Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


michaelgreenaudio
Whoa! Hey, more name calling. You don’t get it. Your posts are excellent examples of pretzel 🥨 logic of the kind used by pseudo skeptics. This conversation can serve no purpose any more.

geoff,

It’s one thing to look for a way out when your bluff has been called.

But to do it on the pretence that someone is calling you names?

Geoffkait...complaining about anyone name-calling?

That is a priceless ploy coming from you. I admire the chutzpah.
Though you may have a class action lawsuit from Audiogon members coming at you, for damage done to their collective Irony Meters ;-)

(And LOL at trying to find "name calling" in my last two posts.)

Anyway, buh-bye! I’ve spent more time than I should have battling your imagination.

Anton Chigurh: And you know what's going to happen now. You should admit your situation. There would be more dignity in it.

Carson Wells: You go to hell.

Anton Chigurh: [Chuckles] Alright. Let me ask you something. If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?

Carson Wells: Do you have any idea how crazy you are?

Anton Chigurh: You mean the nature of this conversation?

Carson Wells: I mean the nature of you.

🤡

I've been wanting to post but there was a glitch in the system that Audiogon promptly fixed. It's odd to read this thread that is mostly about Michael's character instead of the OP. I'll give my take about Michael's character that I have seen first hand. When he moved from the outer part of Vegas to the heart of the strip it was easy to pick up on what Michael Green is about. When leaving the old neighborhood MG made sure those who had an interest in Michael's sound he gave a home system to, free. The movers also got systems, free. This was on top of his generous pay. Even while Michael was moving into our community, he was asking other tenants if they had systems. He gave his neighbors systems, free.

Michael Green is about sharing music and making life enjoyable for the people he comes in contact with. Painting MG in any other light is false. I see and listen with Michael almost every day. We live 5 doors away from each other. Prof and kosst you are so far off base with your posts I'm surprised you are even on this thread. Prof I have indeed read this whole thread and you and kosst ARE trolling MG. You can twist and turn as much as you wish but you ARE INDEED TROLLING Mr. Green.